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  1. JIMV

    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I wish this was true but you have to remember the Scooter Libby case, the fact that the Clintons had every group and person that revealed scandals audited by the IRS, and the entire Lois Lerner IRS scandal...
     
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    Sadistic-Savior New Member Past Donor

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    Not government owners. In the US, government owned media would be seen as extremely suspicious. Private owners can and do have opinions and agendas dramatically different from the government. A lot of media sources exist for no other reason than to criticize and watchdog the government. Any attempts by the government to interfere in media would see an aggressive and immediate backlash.

    The only possible exception I can think of is PBS, but even then, they are watched very closely to ensure the government is not imposing any kind of agenda.

    The government is subordinate to the people. It is not your parent. They should never have the power to silence the masses.
     
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    Sadistic-Savior New Member Past Donor

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    I guess we have no real way of knowing since you are refusing to post alternative sources.

    That is something that you are going to have a hard time getting used to on here. You will be asked for sources a lot. People (often, even people that support your agenda) are not just going to take your word for something. The word of an anonymous user on the internet is worth precisely zero.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    government owning many newspapers, tv channels, means the government controls what you think.

    The Kremlin controls what people in Russia think.
     
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    Sadistic-Savior New Member Past Donor

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    Those aren't political prisoners though. Nobody has been put in prison merely for expressing a belief the government doesn't like. And there are no ideals that are illegal to express.
     
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    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, sure...but hundreds WERE audited by the IRS for their political positions, Libby was investigated in a political case, and being destroyed by the mob for daring to express a non PC position is common...

    Sadly, we too often are a banana republic legal system wearing the fig leaf of justice...And we do have folk who cannot get prosecuted regardless of what they do...The Clintons come to mind

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    Sadistic-Savior New Member Past Donor

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    Was this something the government forbid the media to talk about? Were the Clintons immune to being scrutinized over it by Fox?

    If not, then no, it's not the same situation as Russia.

    You can say the Clintons themselves abused their power. You cannot say that the problem lies within our system. Because all of the stuff you complained about is stuff that the American masses could freely criticize openly and even change through law. What you're doing right now would be forbidden in Russia.
     
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    I can not publish the sources in Russian. These rules of the forum. I published a few links, but moderators carried me a warning and penalty balls for violation of their rules. So I post pictures. (this is not prohibited by the rules). So I really have difficulties in this forum.
    But you can easily find a confirmation of my words on the websites of Russian state archives. There are also sites OFFICIAL statistics and other documents that you can read. (Google translator will help you).

    For example the number of people shot in the Soviet Union during Stalin's rule. (screenshot memorandum for Khrushchev, the number of convicted persons from 1921 to 1953)

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    So, from 1921 to 1953 it was

    Shot - 642.980 people
    Exiled - 765.180 people
    Placed in conclusion - 2,369,220 people.
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    Total - 3,777,380

    It is not Wikipedia. It is a fact.

    Photos from the Gulag.

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    It is also a fact. Unlike the dying of starvation and torture. Wikipedia does not say this. Is not it?
     
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    millions killed in the USSR under Stalin
     
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    Destroyer of illusions Banned

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    I do not understand the psychology of totalitarian sects. Therefore, I will not carry out a discussion on the issue.
     
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    Ok, I understand that. And despite my past posts, I actually sympathize. It should not be against the rules in my opinion, but I am not a moderator.

    That being said, surely you have sites with translations. Pravda has an English version for example. There is a Russian version of Wikipedia. We can't translate pictures, but Google Translate can translate linked Russian text.

    It doesn't really change what I said before...pictures alone are not proof of anything. I guess this is one of the drawbacks of being from a society that represses the media.
     
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    Russian Wikipedia replica of the US Wikipedia. In other words - the source is not credible. .... But.... some people to believe fortune tellers, sorcerers.... fraudsters eventually.
     
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    American Wikipedia has lots of sources for its evidence.

    Russian Wikipedia just has paranoid claims and lies.
     
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    As with US wikipedia, it is maintained by users on the internet who then have to source their claims. It is not just a carbon copy of the US wikipedia word for word.

    You keep using words like "fraudsters"...how exactly are we top determine that you yourself are not a fraudster? What makes you different if you have no other sources for your information?
     
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    Interesting that the only response people have is to ridicule the topic itself.

    If Yellowstone blows the USA is instantly reduced to 3rd world status with death counts exceeding any war we've been in and the destruction even worldwide massive.

    But instead let's panic about co2 in the air and don't even think about Yellowstone. Sure, we can change the entire atmosphere but a controlled release of pressure under a 50 mile area? Naw, don't bother. It probably won't happen in our lifetime anyway.
     
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    Because the topic is ridiculous.

    If Grandma had balls, she'd be grandpa.

    The experts all agree that the chances of Yellowstone blowing in the near future are 1 in 700,000. Those are the conservative estimates...many are also in the 1 in 1.2 million range. You have a higher chance of dying from a lightning strike. Those are pretty good odds.

    Yeah, thats correct. It probably won't happen in your lifetime. Or the lifetime of your children. Or the lifetime of your great grand children. Or in the lifetime of their great great great grandchildren.

    There is a really good reason the OP did not cite any actual scientists in his evidence.
     
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    The system allows the Regime in power to use that power over government agencies to protect friends and harass or jail enemies..that is Caudillo territory. I've lied in such places. Worse, having the power some of our politicians USE it exactly like any third world hell hole. They even have a compliant media. Just because they do not completly kill the reporting does not mean they don't do enough damage to insure no penalty is applied to the regimes abuse of power.

    Remember 'it as all about sex'...a slogan used to keep a criminal in office?
     
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    Destroyer of illusions Banned

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    I fully share your opinion on the Russian Wikipedia. But I do not agree with your assessment of US Wikipedia.
     
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    I do not cheat people. I show the real foto. I am writing the facts are easy to verify. If there is a desire. Sometimes I express my opinion - but that's a topic for discussion. Only a person - not a zombie. The man who has a brain.
     
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    And um...how would we know that?

    You do know this is an anonymous forum, right? You do understand what "anonymous" means?

    (Not trying to be sarcastic...there is a language barrier after all)

    When you make a claim on here, you are expected to support it. The burden is on you to provide the evidence. You are not correct by default.

    Credentials mean nothing at all on here. For all I know, you could be some bored 14 year old American kid in Minnesota. I have no way of verifying your identity. And therefore, I have no way of verifying your credentials, or your photo, or whether or not you cheat people.
     
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    You are not correct by default.
     
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    Sadistic-Savior New Member Past Donor

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    Thats why I post evidence supporting my claims. I don't ask you to take my word for it.
     
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    You do not have any evidence. Wikipedia link in the debate - it is a shame. Your comment - demagoguery.
     
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    the Wikipedia article has lots of non-Wikipedia sources and articles.

    but you ignore all of this. because of partisan politics
     
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    I do have evidence. I just don't have evidence you will personally accept.

    But most people reading this will accept it. You're the exception, not the rule.
     

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