Robert F Kennedy went where Biden refuses to go, the Open US Border

I say RFK Jr. for me is definitely an acceptable alternative to Trump and Biden. Speaking of Arizona, you have this - In battleground Arizona, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. draws Biden and Trump voters united by distrust

https://www.yahoo.com/news/battleground-arizona-robert-f-kennedy-050123998.html

And this - Biden, Trump in Dead Heat for 2024, While Kennedy Gains Traction, Poll Shows

https://news.yahoo.com/biden-trump-dead-heat-2024-192233510.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&uh_test=0_00

RFK Jr. is polling at 22% in the link above. This shows what I’ve been saying and posting with links all along. That most folks don’t want this rematch, they’re looking for someone else, someone other than Trump or Biden.

 

Good point. He's 20 or better in both of those polls and Bribed Joe is still denying him Secret Service Protection



I've been watching these:



Qpak is interesting, Stein and West pull strongly from Kennedy, and weirdly adding them improved Trump's number, I don't understand that, maybe a rounding thing. I do understand them pulling from Kennedy, these are 3rd party voters that will take RFK over either major party candidate.

 

You have 20-25% that state they’ll vote third party rather than choose between Trump and Biden. How those 20-25% divide up per third party candidate will vary. The main point is we have approximately a quarter of the electorate stating they’ll vote for someone other than Biden or Trump. For me, how those quarter of the electorate divide up their votes between RFK Jr., West, Stein, the Libertarian or the no labels party is irrelevant. What it states is a quarter of the electorate dislikes and doesn’t want neither Trump nor Biden to become the next president. It also shows that quarter isn’t willing to choose the lesser of two evils, the least worst candidate or the candidate they want to lose the least among the major party candidates as that quarter usually does.


If that quarter remain steadfast, a candidate could win the presidency with just 37,38,39% of the total popular vote. Can you imagine the chaos, the turmoil, resentment, if 60% plus of the voters vote against the next president.

 

he will steal votes from the left and the right, but I think he will steal more votes from the left, this could give trump the win by default

 

Just wait until they really get to know him! He basically is a slightly cleaner Hunter Biden!

 

Not sure about that his anti-vaxx stance is not that popular

 

56% didn't vote for Clinton in 92.

 

But will the people get to know him? Even if they do, will that make a difference? About a quarter of the electorate today are looking at RFK Jr. others such as West, Stein, Libertarian and when the no labels party comes up with a candidate because they don’t want neither Trump nor Biden to become the next president. I don’t think it’s being so much for RFK Jr. for president or the others, it being against both major party candidates. The last thing most Americans want for 2024 is a rematch between Trump and Biden. It could be whoever that third name on the ballot is irrelevant, the only important thing to this quarter of the electorate is whoever the third name is that they’re voting for, it isn’t Trump nor Biden.


What the polls are showing when the polls include more choices than just Trump or Biden is around 60% of all Americans being against Biden, 60% being again Trump with approximately 25% being against both. This is why Trump and Biden end up with 35-38% of the vote each when there are more choices to choose from. I think it’s very possible whoever wins between Trump and Biden, the winner will end up with less than 40% of the popular vote.

 

Yes, Bill Clinton didn’t win a majority of the popular vote in either 92 or 96. Neither did G.W. Bush in 2000 nor did Trump in 2016. But none of them were lower than 40%. In 92 and 96, there was Ross Perot to factor in. He took votes relatively even from both major parties and came close to winning independents in 1992. But back in the 90’s, there was a trust in our electoral system that isn’t there today. Also, back in 1992, the voters had a positive view of by Bill Clinton 64% favorable/33% unfavorable vs. G.H.W. Bush 61% favorable/39%unfavorable. 1992 and 1996, even 2000 were in a enra prior to today’s modern political era of polarization, the great divide, the super, mega, ultra-high partisanship. Compare how the two major party candidates are viewed by all Americans today to 1992, Biden 39% favorable/55% unfavorable, Trump 40% favorable/56% unfavorable.

I don’t think one can compare the 1992 election to the upcoming 2024 election, two completely different political eras. The people also viewed the major party candidates differently. People were happy with the presidential choices back in 1992, not so for 2024.

Only about a third of all Americans think Trump represents the views of all Americans, the same with Biden. It gets worse with the two major parties, 29% think the Republican Party represents their views, another 29% think the democratic Party represents their views. This wasn’t the case back in the 1990’s.