Rockefeller's Luciferian NYC Temples

Some Christians believe that anything that doesn't fit into the narrow little box of their dogma is satanic. It is sad that they brainwash their children to think the same way. This is no more valid than believing in the boogey man.

I agree with you that there are people who want to control us and impose the NWO, but the religious claptrap about everythng being evil is absurd.

 

Author of conspiracy book? Quigley was not a conspiracist author, he was part of the Conspiracy. The CFR permitted him to examine their internal documents in the early 1960s and he wrote the book Tragedy and Hope, making occasional favorable references to the conspiracy of the international bankers. It is completely and historically accurate that the CFR was established for this manner by Col. Edward Mandell House with the blessings of Federal Reserve and international bankers.

I never claimed to prove anything, It's conjecture that hasn't been DISPROVEN. I asked you to disprove it.

Why? Afraid to find out that he confirms what I've said?

Soros is a member of the CFR. Look at the roster, there is your proof.

Nothing has been discredited. You've simply made a series of strawman arguments that were completely non-factual.

I've given you conjecture and you've failed to disprove it. You made false claims about Quigley and even stated you refused to read his book. You simply have beat around the bush with strawman arguments.

Nothing in my post references Glenn Beck whatsoever...did you even read it? I simply used his name in the thread as an attention-getter, but you'll notice that I said I don't even like him. How is that anything remotely close as using him as a "credible source? More strawmans from somebody who has no argument.

Fail.

 

Ah No, I'm not saying that.

 

I'm not saying everthing is evil, but there are there is a common base in the occult type religions which relates them.

And I like your understanding of the NWO stuff, the difference with me is I like to point out the religious arm of the NWO crowd, like how they are planning a global religion, where monotheism will be removed....well, there is an exception to that

 

It seems you have done a fair bit of study on NWO .. and religion.

It is clear however that you have not yet figured out who Satan is.

Let me give you a few hints:


Satan has been in control over much of the known world for 1700 years.

Satan's organization has been responsible for more killing, torture and ethnic cleansing than any other organization by far over this time period ( Most done in the name of God to mask the real purpose which was Power)

Satan's organization has been the most profligate killer and persecuter of Gods chosen people.

Satan has set up what is most horrible to God .. "the awfull horror"
( This is to set up an organization or person that claims to speak for God .. Pontifex Maximus)

 

Well gee, you can sit here and wank off about conspiracies on an internet forum which you know will accomplish nothing, or you could infiltrate them and destroy them from the inside and be an actual hero.

Boy, if I believed what you did, the choice to me would be obvious.

 

I certiainly would not expect a totalitarian world government to be friendly to the concept of freedom of religion, that's for sure.

 

Well Satan has had the world for longer than that, and you are correct, the wolf in sheeps clothing is a staple to hid the works of evil.

Example, like we have politicians who lie to us and tell us they are conservative christians to get votes, and then go to devil rites and party down with gay sex.

 

The only thing that will stop the NWO if it is possible is if people understand how it works. Attacking on small branch of a large tree, will not bring the tree down. The network is to big and people need to understand how all the branches are connected so the trunk can be cut down, not just trim the branches.

The Video BOD goes over how it works.

 

You got that straight.

But they will try and teach the masses that slavery is freedom And for the most part, thats going very nicely for them right now.

 

Yes, it's more of a slow conditioning process which takes generations. Get the parents to think one way, so that they will teach their kids a certain way, so that they will teach THEIR kids a certain way, etc. Eventually, you have enough people thinking like Collectivists that they are willing to embrace Collectivism as freedom. And right now, our government is controlled by 2 large Collectivist factions: the Democrats and Republicans, who are both working together (under the guise of opposition) to bring us into world government.

 

Yep and the Dems and Reps are under the AAE

http://www.robodoon.com/carol_quigley.htm

 

Sorros being a member proves nothing. Conjecture is a guess; you can't prove or disprove a negative. There is absolutely nothing that comes close to a strawman in my argument against your conspiracy theory: your conspiracy is a strawman by definition.

So, you're out there in space someplace. When you can ground an argument, then come and see me, and not before.

 

Isn't your avatar, a occult symbol?

Board A?

 

But it's a right hand! Everyone with even the shallowest knowledge of the occult knows that only the Left Handers practice human sacrifice, and that Right Hand magic is only suitable for invocations, whereas Lefty's can evoke and invoke.

 

Uh, no it is not. It is a sign of an historical kingdom and current province.

Research it, and see what you find. It'll be tricky for you, but I trust you'll make it.

 

It's not a strawman at all. You clearly don't know what the definition of a strawman is. I have given you evidence that leads to the conjecture, it's up to you to disprove the evidence I've posted. The evidence being Quigley's claims about the CFR and the general history of it with the Wilson Administration. Until the evidence is disproven, you cannot claim that the theory is ungrounded or unfounded, becuase the evidence supports the claims. Basically what I'm saying is that there is no reason to NOT believe what I've stated.

 

Ya see that word I've highlighted? t' all you have.

You've discreditied yourself by not being able to prove your own assertion.

None of the "evidence" proves anything, so all you have is "conjecture".

or

A ridiculous conspiracy theory.

You lose.

 

Robo, do some research on Lucifer vs Satan, then come back to us.

 

The mere fact of our being human means that we already think the same way in most ways. No conditioning required. We are innately collectivist, but we are also inherently individual, packetized entities that have no choice but to look after the entity defined the skein that contains us individually. So one of my problems with pure individualism is that it amounts to making a virtue of necessity regardless of whether the necessity contains any virtue.

If humanity progresses, unity should be the eventual result. Why would you look down on something that, if it occurred as a natural result of advancing cultural evolution, can only be seen as a good thing? There is nothing inherently bad about a unified world. I would even say that if we ever became unified it would almost certainly be a good thing because it would not have been possible unless we had reached a socio-philosophical level where we were already capable of understanding that everything that divides us is petty.

 

As to the original post, it's pure, uncut, undiluted poppycock. Even if Rockefeller got down on his knees and openly worshiped Satan on national TV, it wouldn't make any difference because Satan is fictional. Anything Rockefeller might or might not have done in this respect was purely a result of his own beliefs and had nothing to do with any magic powers or spiritual influences.

 

No, a ridiculous conspiracy theory can be disproven, which most of them can because they're typically made up of shaky evidence with no hard sources cited. It's very hard to define that as conjecture. My theory has a hard, credible source and the evidence is clear, not shaky. All theories in math and science are conjecture as well because they simply have not been disproven: everything we know is consisent with them. And like this theory, I challenge you to give me one reason to not believe the conjecture to be true. If there's no reason to not believe it to be true, how does that mean I've discredited myself?

Your method of debate makes no sense. You've simply beat around the bush, claiming that all I've done is discredit myslef. You haven't even once actually discussed the issue itself, you've simply made strawman arguments to avoid it. Are you afraid to believe the theory because it very well may be completely correct?

 

Collectivism is a theory that looks good on paper, but it always leaves the door open for exploitation by the elite members of society. Also, there's nothing inherently wrong with a world government which would unify humanity. It's that this type of world government is totalitarian in nature and would not represent human rights at all. We are simply not at that stage in our progression and evolution yet. Someday, maybe tens of thousands of years in the future, races, cultures, currencies, borders will all be combined into one because they will be rendered unnecessary with the rate at which people will be able to communicate and exchange ideas. Someday when we are able to acheive that level of what is essentially worldwide communism, it may be a good thing. But in our lifetimes, in this century, we are nowhere near ready for anything like that. And the last thing we need is a totalitarian collectivist world government, which would set the progess of humanity back to the stone age.

 

Madmen throughout history have tried to unite the world under one size fits all banner. Luckily, they all failed. I think one day it will be realized, however.

Of course, just think of all the "good" that will come of it. No more wars. No more borders. No more "cough" opposition. We will all become one big homogenized group think tank that is set into motion by the world order.

Speaking of war, there is no doubt that it is bad, however, could there be a worse fate? After all, if there were no world power to overcome Hilter, where would we be today?

 

You want an example of who is pushing for one world "peace and prosperity"?

Just take a look at the EU and their forced austerity and debt enslavement. Do you see any elites stepping up to the plate to spread their wealth? Hell no. Globalists are a bunch of elitists who think the world is overpopulated and do not want the lessers to have more. They want everyone to have less, produce less, consume less, and live less.