Romania's last "dictator"

I wondered if anybody heard about Nicolae Ceauşescu, Romania's last so called dictator and what have you heard about him.

 

Dear Kraska,

Yes, who doesn't know Ceaucescu?!

However, please ignore the silly seperation of PForum.com in (1) Western Europe and (2) Eastern Europe & Russia.

Others and me asked the moderators to change this, but since not a single moderator on the forum is from Continental Europe or Russia, they said "no".

Hence, please post everything on any EEA-member in "Western Europe" section.

Thanks.

 

Ok Janpor, thanks for the hints. But how do I change the location of the thread? Or can I delete it and start it again?

 

I think people here know more about Ceaucescu and understand him and his time better than the brainwashed West Europeans.

 

Most old people and even a part of the young one (including me) became nostalgic about that period, although some never lived it.

 

Nicolae Ceauşescu was a dictator who received a just end - execution. This is an appropriate end for all dictators IMO.

 

Was he more popular than Gheorghiu-Dej ?

 

LadyLuna, what an atrocious response!

First of all, an "execution" isn't the same as "death penalty" -- since I know y'all Americans are fond of that one.

No!

Just no,...

 

Uhm,...

Yeah, Western-Europeans are brainwashed.

Stop the silliness already, will you?!

Besides, Russians really need to get over themselves -- Western Europeans aren't hating on you. In fact, all I see on PForum.com is Russian hate towards Western-Europeans.

And I don't understand why! Explain, please?!

 

You can't be serious, Kraska?! Explain, please!

I know that other people from the Eastern Bloc came holidaying in Romania on your beaches at the Black Sea.

I also remember reading an article in one of my old National Geographic magazines (which I found on the street!). I'll look around later on today, so I can search a digital text from the article. I do remember, however, the situation, despite the resort beaches, wasn't pretty...

In essence I see Ceaucescu as some Communist-becomes-King type of guy, him appointing his family members in all sorts of positions caused a huge amount of mis-managment, and thus, corruption. Living standards for the people fell, etc.

Oil-production fell dramatically, because of mis-managment and Ceaucascu's appointing his family members all over the place...

Like in the USSR, queues were everywhere.

And just like in the USSR, there was enough production, but a lot of goods "dissappeared" via the back-door instead of the front-door.

And let's not forget the Securitate!

 

he's dead.

 

It's a pity but some people yes.

Do not exaggerate, simply some guys laugh at silly posts.

 

I think Kraska is absolutely serious. You simply do not understand how much horrors of communism are exaggerated. People of East block have an opportunity to compare and sometimes it causes nostalgia. Even not communists sometimes nostalgic.

 

Add a little . We do not have any hatred towards Western Europe. But really funny when illiterate people try to teach those people who are much smarter than they are. That's funny, and why not to troll a fool?

 

So you find killing 2 people like dogs a just end?

 

Nicolae Ceausescu had the longest governing in Communist Romania. He did most of the things that brought Romania to the Golden Age.
Still Gheorghe Gheorghiu Dej was the one the got the Russians out of the country. That was a big relief for the Romanias.

 

Oh, I guess you don't have those in Russia?!

I'm not exaggerating. For historical reasons, Russia (and later USSR) has been obsessed with Western Europe for all sort of reasons.

 

Of course we have. They are usually called "democratic opposition" in your media.

It is funny, but I assume it is pretty much vise verse.


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That is brutal offtopic anyway.

 

First of all Janpor, stop beliving anything american-made about communism or anything related. You will never find an American speaking good about a Russian or the other way around.

I don't know where you got those ideeas about Ceausescu appointing his family members in different possition, but it never happened.
Living standards were not the best but now it's worse.

Queses always existed everywhere, no matter the political sistem. I really don't understant all the fuss about it. It's something normal, there are hundreds of people that need to get the same job done.

After '82 the situation began to degradate. True. But we were in deep debts so most of the production had to go to export. But there there is something that it's always forgoten. In '89 after the "revolution" we were the only country in the world with 0 debt. Romania is in big debts now, but imagine what would it be like if Ceausescu wouldn't have paid those debts. It's scares me.

This was about your questions.

Now I will explain why I am becoming nostalgic.

This is one thing that concerns me directlly. There are thousands of students that graduate from Universities every year. And what do you think happens to them? They start working as barmans in pubs or as taxi drivers.
There are 2 reasons for this that I can think of:

1.The employer goes with the usuall "You have no experience, next."
2.The jobs are occupied by illiterate but rich scums.

In the communist era it was different, the state gave you work even before you graduated. Most of the schools worked in collaboration with different companies or factories that took students to actually work in the field. On a paid job. The salarie depended on wether it was a full time job or a half time.

Second.

Nicolae Ceausescu almost managed to completlly eradicat illiteracy. The levels were extremlly high before the communism. It's true that they actually forced you to go to school, but that was better because now we have empty classroom and illiterates growing by the day.

Third.

The state gave you a home. When my parents got married they got from the state a one room appartament on rent of course. When my sister got born they kept the one room appartament. But when I was born they requested a two room appartament and they gave them one.

Forth.

In the communist era you could walk at 2 am on the streets without fear. Now people that come from the second shift are afraid to walk because the street are full of drunk or drug addicted scums. Or dogs.

I forgot about the Securitate, todays SRI, Serviciul Român de Informaţii, Romanian Service of Information. I'm sure you heard about the terror feeling in the country. Again there was no such thing unless you were a fraud. Because if you were a fraud it was deadly

 

It is very similar to what we have in Russia.Then in 1970s Brezhnev irritated many of the people,now we see that advantages of his time are much higher than disadvantages and is considered now as a Golden Age.We can say that we had a Heroic era in 1930s-1940s and the Golden Age in 1960s-1980s.

 

Stop lying!

At first I didn't want to do this (= throwing salt in your wounds, but you leave me no choice!)

Only for Russian- and Dutch-speakers: forward to 10m20

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9eJElm4XmY"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9eJElm4XmY[/ame]

 

Situation in 2011, entirely in Russian this time (so no Dutch interuptions):

Segment of "Back To The USSR":

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk-VK0YwGqs"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk-VK0YwGqs[/ame]

 

To beleave that you know the life in our countries even never living here better that we do - what a superswagger,what a racism!Hold your sence of superiority,East Europe is not Kongo for you.

An arrogance with an ignorance is a terrible mixture

 

Is Nicolae the Romanian translation for Dracula?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEkGtSwjHmc"]Dracula Intro - YouTube[/ame]

 

And what's wrong with Dracula,you smart aleck ?