Romney Family Investment Ties To Voting Machine Company That Could Decide Elections

Oh good Lord. That's about as convoluted and reaching as a claim can get. What do you think Anne Romney and Tagg Romney are going to do.....go into the voting places and tinker with any machines that "might" have come from that investment? Geez, I have some Apple investment in my portfolio....run by a family member at an investment firm. Think the two of us can control what Apple does and doesn't do with the IPhones? That's silly.

 

Getting ready for the Obama defeat? I couldn't be the failure of his progressive agenda. It has to be racism, voter fraud, or witchcraft.

 

I'd be more worried about the clear voter suppression efforts the GOP is engaging in, like robo-calling minorities and telling them they can vote by phone, handing out flyers in black neighborhoods saying that you cant vote if you have a parking ticket, saying election day is the 2nd, etc

 

A thread based purely on speculation?

No thanks...

How about we let things play themselves out, and, not assume anyone is gonna commit voter fraud?

I mean, it's almost non-existent, as it is...

Why conjure up these hypotheticals?

 

If you can, could you have them hook me up with a new iPod to replace the one I have with the spontaneous screen crack after 1 month?

Thanks...

 

Well, it looks like good ol' Tagg can "punch" Obama for pickin' on his dad, after all!

What a, ahh, "convenient" family investment to OWN the VOTING MACHINES in a KNOWN SWING STATE! LOUSY designed, quite HACKABLE voting machines, BTW!

Voting machines that DO NOT LEAVE AN AUDIT TRAIL!

Ahh, such coincidences! Buying a voting machine company a few MONTHS before his dad's presidential race! My, oh, my, But its just a coincidence.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickung...hat-could-decide-the-election-causes-concern/

With details from Huffington:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/23/pro-romney-firm-voting-machines_n_2006697.html

 

This is great news, Romney will win for sure. Romney also owns a car, maybe you can accuse him of running people over going to a polling place. Stupid thread Dave

 

http://myfox8.com/2012/10/23/guilford-county-voters-say-they-voted-for-the-wrong-candidate/

Democrats cheating in NC. Obama owns stocks in the voting machine business.

Game, set, match.

Voting machines are having troubles everywhere. I bet Obama owns stock in this company too. See how that works. Accuse someone without a lick of proof.

 

My post had names, dates, and owners pedigree.

What voting machine business? What ownership? Does Obama have a management or owner position in the company's operations?

Did Obama buy in TWO MONTHS before the election, just two months AFTER he discovered he was going to be a presidential candidate?

All answers NEGATIVE for Obama! Therefore:

NO game.

NO set.

NO match.

Rebuttal FAIL!

Tagg looks like a crook getting ready for the ripoff. Obama does NOT.

 

And how is this relevant?

I don't see why this justifies making a thread.

 

You don't understand how its "RELEVANT" that the SON of a presidential candidate has taken control of at least ONE voting machine company running the VERY VOTING AREA that may well determine the election of his FATHER to the White House by the thinnest of margins?

The SAME son who was willing to break the law for his dad? And it sounds like Tagg had already set up an "out of control emotionally" criminal defense if he's caught! "Mean ol' Obama was beating my Dad! I HAD to stop him!"

And its CURRENT NEWS, rightfully so.

Couldn't Be FISHIER!

 

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Because it was how GW won in 2000, with a little help from the United States Supreme Court, who ordered the stopping of the count of Gore votes in Fla. But I am sure the polls wil be well manned by watchers to see that every vote is counted and kept in a neutral, well guarded area.

We got very sick of republicans pulling boxes from the back of cars for extra votes in a close race. Hahahaha

 

If Democrats are so worried about that town having voting machines that Romney's son has some investments in, then pull out the old punch cards. Problem solved. By the way, he is just one of several investers in the company. He doesn't own it.

 

Sooo you're saying the machines are rigged.....

Do you have evidence maybe? Or are you just blowing smoke out your ass?

 

You see the libs aren't sure if Obama will win or not so they are already working on conspiracy theories just in case. LOL!

 

Undoubtedly true. They have hundreds of lawyers ready to litigate any loss Obama suffers for any reason at all.

 

Could Romney-Linked Electronic Voting Machines Alter Ohio’s Vote?

By Keith Thomson | Huffington Post | 10/26/2012
Excerpts:

“In 2006, a group of computer hackers reprogrammed a Dutch electronic voting machine to play chess. The Dutch government subsequently imposed a moratorium on the use of electronic voting machines. In 2009 German Federal Constitutional Court ruled the country's electronic voting systems unreliable to the point that their use was deemed unconstitutional. In June, Ireland paid a metal recycling company €70,267to dismantle and recycle the country's €55 million worth of electronic voting machines.

In the United States, 35% of this year's general election votes will be cast on electronic voting machines that, "in terms of effort required to compromise the systems, are in the same ballpark as the Irish voting machines," according to Dan Wallach, a professor in Rice University's Department of Computer Science and a computer systems security specialist. "The current voting machines were designed with insufficient attention to computer security."

This week, stories appeared in several prominent publications, including The Washington Post and the Atlantic, documenting concern about electronic voting in general, and, in particular, a possible Mitt Romney link to voting machines used in Ohio.

In brief, Solamere Capital, a private-equity firm run by Tagg Romney, one of the candidate's sons, invests in HIG Capital, a private-equity firm whose principals include former Romney colleagues and current Romney fundraisers. Last year, HIG made what it terms a "significant" investment in Austin-based voting machine company Hart InterCivic.

Hart machines are used in two counties in Ohio: Williams County, which has 25,000 of the state's eight million registered voters, and Hamilton County, with 565,000 registered voters.

Is there reason for worry?

There may be reason for concern about the systems in general. In 2007, Ohio convened a team of 23 computer scientists, security specialists and other election equipment experts to review the state's electronic voting systems.

According to their report, "Evaluation and Validation of Election-Related Equipment, Standards and Testing" (EVEREST), "The systems uniformly failed to adequately address important threats against election data and processes. Central among these is a failure to adequately defend an election from insiders, to prevent virally infected software from compromising entire precincts and counties, and to ensure cast votes are appropriately protected and accurately counted."

With regard to machines produced by Austin-based Hart InterCivic, EVEREST concluded, "Our evaluation suggests that the Hart system lacks the technical protections necessary to guarantee a trustworthy election under operational conditions."

continued:

 

conclusion:

Among the system's problems, citing the report, are these failures:

* Failure to protect election from malicious insiders: The protections in the Hart system that are intended to prevent election officials, poll workers, and vendor representatives from using dangerous features or modifying election data are circumventable.

Attackers with access to the system can quickly recover critical system passwords, extract cryptographic keys, and reproduce security hardware. These artifacts are the "keys to the kingdom" that can be used to forge election data and compromise nearly all of the Hart election equipment.

* Failure to effectively protect election data integrity: Virtually every ballot, vote, election result, and audit log is forgeable or otherwise manipulatable by an attacker with even brief access to the voting systems.

* Failure to provide trustworthy auditing: The auditing capabilities of the Hart system are limited. Those features that are provided are vulnerable to a broad range of attacks that can corrupt or erase logs of election activities. This severely limits the ability of election officials to detect and diagnose attacks.

These finding were consistent with other evaluations, such as California's Top-to-Bottom Review. EVEREST uses some 70 single-spaced pages to get into specifics about the Hart system's susceptibilities.

Why do these systems remain in place?

According to a Hamilton County Board of Elections official statement, "Our equipment has been tested, through recounts and audits, and been proven to be highly accurate." This claim echoes perhaps the majority of election officials' sentiments.

Krisel told me matter-of-factly, "We have no issues with our systems."
Wallach cited costs as well as a lack of appreciably better systems on the market.

What can be done?

Los Angeles County, so dissatisfied with the current marketplace that it still uses its decades-old "Ink-a-Vote" punch-card system, is actively seeking alternatives and may commission a custom machine. Also the state of California is experimenting with a variety of new auditing technologies. Still, the consensus among experts is that significant change to the process is a matter of years away.

For the time being, says Jonathan Simon, director of the Election Defense Alliance, ‘Take the Hart machines out of service; there is a clear conflict of interest." He also suggests "hand counting those jurisdictions, at the very least the federal races. Then - by extension since none of the electronic equipment...allows the observable vote counting essential to a legitimate election - hand count all jurisdictions. It's not that hard.’ "

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/keith-thomson/romney-electronic-voting-machines_b_2025490.html
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I believe that our voting systems are the same as banks use when you deposit or withdraw funds, and they give a receipt and are accurate. With one flaw...benks give a receipt showing that your transaction has been completed. Voting machines do not give receipts, and are easily hacked into in just a few minutes to any interested party. Now that is scary.

When we spend $Billions of dollars on elections, but have susceptible voting machines, what are we actually saying?

All the evidence of manipulation by people such as Tagg Romney, former Bain Capital colleagues, Romney fund-raisers all point to a positive voting machine hacking that can happen! And it possibly happened in GW’s 2000 and 2004 election campaigns in Ohio.

We need hack proof voting machines that issue receipts that are then handed to a duly authorized watch person at each polling place until we get an antiquated system fixed that will legitimately register our votes.

The idea that our future may be in the hands of a Tagg Romney voting machine company that produces inferior, hack oriented voting machines is just too repulsive to contemplate.

 

Translation: It's looking worse for Obama by the day. It's probably best I come up with some excuses for a potential loss. As I've already been nailed for buying into the bogus scam about Tagg Romney owning voting machines, how about I walk that back a bit, but still circle the wagons in case I need a good excuse for a loss?

Translator's Note: GOOD IDEA, SWEETHEART.

 

Hmm . . . no voter ID . . . no problem. New Black Panthers intimidating white voters . . . no problem.

A candidate's son works for a company who invests in a company which invests in ANOTHER company that makes voting machines . . . big problem??

Is this the best you can come up with????

 

Good question. Could bus loads of Somalis, with instruction cards as how to vote, being brought into Ohio polling places by democrat aperatchiks alter the vote as well? http://www.barenakedislam.com/2012/...who-cant-speak-english-likely-arent-citizens/

The answer is obvious.

 

The way liberals are talking it already has effected the vote. Hopefully their stupid quest to try and make this news will result in less Obama turnout...

 

No more than the SEIU could alter votes in Nevada, they have the maintenance contract for the voting machines there.

 

Can the Democrats bus in enough mind-numbed-robots to Alter Ohio's vote?

 

Aren't you glad the UN is sending Observers?

Now "Bus loads" of Somali's - won't SOMEONE notice??