Ron Paul on Libya: 'Victory for Empire,but Loss for American Republic'...

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  1. Libocalypsenow

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    GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul today denounced the United States intervention in Libya, criticizing the operation as unconstitutional and costly.

    The longtime Texas congressman, who is in third place in the GOP nomination race, according to Gallup polls released this week, wrote in a statement that the United States was in no position to meddle in Libyan affairs.

    “The current situation in Libya may be a short term victory for Empire, but it is a loss for our American Republic,” Paul wrote. “And, I fear it may be devastating to the Libyan people.”

    “There is no doubt that Moammar Gadhafi is a bad guy, and that he has brought harm and misery to his country,” Paul continued. “However, our involvement in another country’s civil war is costly and unconstitutional.”

    Paul said the he fears the the country will be taken over by another dictator or descend into sectarian anarchy, rather than peacefully transitioning to a democracy. Meanwhile, he wrote, the United States has spent money overseas while in the midst of a debt crisis.

    “We have spent over $1 billion on a war that this administration has fought not with the consent of Congress, but under a NATO flag and authorization from the United Nations,” he wrote.

    “And so, our government continues to spend trillions of dollars in overseas foreign wars while we face unsustainable debt, a looming dollar crisis, and our Constitution seems to lose any meaning,” Paul continued. “These actions will sink our country if we do not reverse course.”



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    Ron Paul would not be good for the US.. He is far too much an ideologue to deal with reality... sad..


     
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    Ron Paul's ideology is the same as the US founders, how wouldn't that be good for the US?
     
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    Whatever.. he has no chance.. his ideology is too confusing.. and the US cannot disconnect from the rest of the world.
     
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    His ideology may be more clear than any other candidates in the last 100 years. Your claim fails.
     
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    Oh wow.. I guess I thought more of RP that he deserved.
     
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    Seeing as the founders had many many differet ideologys I doubt your statement.
     
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    Lucky for us the French didn't have our constitution, and Ron Paul's interpretation of it, when they backed our civil war or we'd still be part of the British Empire.
     
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    There would be no US founders if Ron Paul was born earlier in life and was French.
     
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    FYI I got banned from ALIPAC years ago because I said if Ron Paul was in charge during WWII the Japanese still would've lost but we wouldn't of gone to war with the Germans being "it's none of our business" and there wouldn't be a Jew left alive today.

    It was true then and it's still true now. I'm not sure how many years it's been [3 maybe?] but I'm still banned from that site, without going through the trouble of created a new email and user id.

    It's kind of stupid to make enemies of your friends for issues not related to your sites goals. ie. ALIPAC wants to close the border and get rid of the illegal aliens just like I do, unlike Ron Paul. Yet they defend him. How weird is that.
     
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    Not true... Germany declared War on Us first maybe you should learn that Historical Fact. Maybe you were banned for being overally ignorant?

    Lucky for us the French were constanty at War with the British Empire! Also the Alliance between the French and the Americans was mutually benificial to curb the Power the British Empire was holding over the rest of Europe and the World.
     
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    No. Thomas Jefferson waged a war with the Barbary pirates.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War

    The difference is that Congress authorized that war. Obama never even bothered to ask for Congressional authorization.
     
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    Um...your post drips of disingenuity. First, you claim his views are too confusing, then you claim you thought of him more than he deserves.

    You aren't anything in the zipcode of Ron Paul's ideology. Stop posing as someone who's trying to understand it as though you have any interest in adopting those views in any way.
     
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    I kinda agree with that - up to the point that Khadaffi blew up the jetliner over Scotland. I don't know how to reconcile that, but Bush was able to.
     
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    Germany didn't have the capacity to fight a war on US soil we could've ignored their war declaration. Just like Ron Paul wants us to ignore the Islamics who have declared war on us.
     
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    Strawman.

    Try harder next time because his record proves he would Defend himself.
     
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    Libya = $1 billion.

    Iraq = 1000 Libyas. Or more if incidental costs are factored in.

    Just to put it in perspective.
     
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    Spoken like a true adolescent.

    Maybe, but if you would read the DOI, the US Constitution and the Federalist Papers, you would see my point is valid.
     
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    His record proves he would defend himself only if directly attacked.
     
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    So you support unwarranted aggression?
     
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    How does that make it any better? The Left's silence on Obama's insane Lybia policy is absolutely shameful. Hypocrits!

    Except that Ron Paul voted to for the use of force in Afghanistan. I keep hearing the same idiotic twaddle from Ron Paul haters, that he's anti war and wants our enemies to walk all over us. I'm tired of the lies that are told about Paul, even though I'm not voting for him. So I'll continue to set the record straight.
     
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    Waged war??? With criminals???

    War is waged between states.
     
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    Dude we don't have to destroy the whole country. Just pick a weekday, other than Friday, and lay down a few MOAB's on his capital buildings. Problem solved. Of course if were stupid enough to warn them first like Bush did Iraq it will be tons harder.
     
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    Germany didn't directly attack America so Ron Paul wouldn't of attacked them and there wouldn't be a single Jew left alive today.

    A declaration of war is not an attack.
     

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