Ron Paul refuses to commit to abstain from a third-party run

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  1. pjohns

    pjohns Well-Known Member

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    I was disappointed that Ron Paul would not declare decisively, at Thursday night's GOP debate, that he will not run as a third-party candidate if he fails to secure the GOP nomination. He did indicate that it is not his current "intent" to do so; but he stopped far short of any Shermanesque declaration that he will simply not participate in any such matter.

    And that, it appears to me, leaves the door wide open for the possibility of such a run; which I would view as both highly unprincipled and a boon to President Obama's chances for re-election.
     
  2. What is free

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    I think he may go third party if Newt gets the nomination. It seems like he would be ok with romney becoming POTUS.

    I, however, think it's highly unlikely he will go third party.
     
  3. Teutorian

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    Ron Paul is not being given the same luxuries afforded the other candidates - even the horrible ones.

    He'll have to work twice as hard and deliver twice as good a message. There is a concentrated effort to destroy him. If they succeed, expect Ron Paul supporters to put forth a concentrated effort to return the favor.

    Newt Gingrich will not be President of the United States. Neither will Romney.
     
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    I wish they'd be consistent and ask Romney and Gingrich this question in every single interview.
     
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    Just proves that Paul is smart enough not to lock himself out of options, but dumb enough to think that Republicans are conservatives according to the classic definition.
     
  6. liberalminority

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    the libertarians could be their ralph nadar and take their otherwise republican votes to a third party.

    that will help obama get re elected

    hope ron paul gets more of a following now but not enough to clinch the republican nomination, just became a fan.
     
  7. peoplevsmedia

    peoplevsmedia Banned

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    That is the reason I have no plans to donate any money to him: I donated $100 to him in 2008, then he dropped out... against WHO?????? he should run as an independent, my dad thinks he's a fraud like all the rest - talking truth, but just to be used as a puppet - I do not think real leaders can be shown on television
    PERIOD
     
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    I agree, there is no fn way I would vote for anyone in the GOP other then RPaul, and if he is out, then I will wish for Obama to get re elected just to see neocons embarassed (not that it makes any difference between the rest of them)
     
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    Rand Paul in 2016!

    That's better than Newt or Romney for 8 years. Newt or Romney would make "conservatives" complacent since they can't blame it all on Obama, as they continue on the progressive path away from the Constitution and liberty.
     
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    That's right, it seems that Gingrich would want to form his own party for narcissistic third wave internationalists, along with Clinton, Gore, and Obama.

    It seems that Romney would figure out that he actually meant to challenge Obama in a democratic primary.
     
  11. Brewskier

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    Nah, Rand Paul is a neo-con chickenhawk warmonger according to Ron Paul fanboy standards. He openly disagrees with his dad's foreign policy.
     
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    There are more problems with neocons than just foreign policy, that's just what the general flock of conservatives always bring up, so that forms the argument.

    Rand would be much better on civil liberties (as he opposed this most recent indefinite detainment bill), the establishment's corporate collusion, hyper-globalist entanglements in 1,000 page trade agreements, and sacrificing sovereignty by handing over power to international bureaucracies.
     
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    RP is getting good support as a GOP candidate, even with the establishment against him. He is likely to have even more support from Independents and some Democrats. He knows he represents the hopes of many with his campaign.

    It would be foolish of him to not consider carrying the standard for all those people through the election, whether as a Republican or Independent. He has to know that many will vote for him regardless...whether he's on the ballot or not. If he were to endorse another candidate, that endorsement would be ignored by his supporters.

    The bottom line as I see it....no Republican except RP can win in the general election.
     
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    I have to hand it to him. He's an isolationist libertarian that hooked up with the republicans so that he would get some exposure and air time. Get in on the debates and receive some attention that he wouldn't get running as a libertarian. Then, if he doesn't secure the republican nomination, he splits off, taking a share of malcontent republicans with him, thus splintering the party. I wouldn't be surprised if some of his campaign war chest isn't chock full of Obama campaign money.
     
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    He's a constitutionalist which is more than any of your progressive republican candidates can say. It's not his fault that conservatives allowed their party to become constitution-trampling, world policing, corrupt globalist cronies.
     
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    I'm sorry, I'm not a republican. As long as you're in a ranting mood, please include democrats as being constitution trampling, world policing, corrupt globalists. After all, fair is fair.
     
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    Well, of course they are included. The sooner the two party duopoly is dismantled, the better.

    You're not a republican? What are you then, a democrat? Sorry, those are your only choices.
    :)
     
  18. ronmatt

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    It would seem that they are the "only choices'. It is, of course, a 'rigged system'. And I actually do somewhat support a 3rd party. But, for me, the abolishtion of partisan politics altogether is preferable.
     
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    Ahh, tell a lie enough times...

    Ron Paul is not an isolationist. Those that insist that he is are either grossly misinformed or are willfully spreading false information.
     
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    Typically it's the latter.
     
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    Mr. Paul explains Isolationists vs Non-Interventionist. Starting at @ 1:05


    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4cxA0dkgiM]Mr. Ron Paul[/ame]
     
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    I ADMIRE this Man!!
    Answers like this deserve the thread of their own. I will repost. thanks for sharing.
     
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    You're welcome. I too, thought it was an interesting explanation, in his own words.

    Regards
     
  24. Teutorian

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    Posted by What is Free is another thread.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8NhRPo0WAo&feature=player_embedded"]You Like Ron Paul, Except on Foreign Policy - YouTube[/ame]
     
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