Ron Paul refuses to commit to abstain from a third-party run

If he doesn't get the nom he should run third party do at least we'll have a choice between a statist, a statist, and a constitutionalist.

 

Just vote for Obama instead. The result is the same anyway if we eliminate the self-righteous feeling someone gets for throwing their vote away.

 

The result is not the same. I will not be voting for Obama under any circumstances.

 

The result IS the same. 4 more years of Obama. The only difference will be that you, personally, get to say "I wrote in Ron Paul!"

 

If republicans want my vote they have to earn it like anyone else.

 

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Only Rick Perry can save us now...

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A vote for anyone but Paul is a vote for Obama.

 

They don't see it that way. Your vote belongs to them and you are a traitor for not voting for who they tell you to vote for.

 

the result is not the same. with my vote obama would have one more vote than otherwise.

the exact same argument you are making you could make for the republican nominee. a vote for a third party ron paul is a vote for the republican nominee since im not voting for obama. you are assuming my vote is automatically for whatever ass clown the republicans throw my way. my vote must be earned. either way I'm not convinced that the country would be better off in the long run if one of the statist republicans were to beat obama. this country needs change, and frankly it won't be coming from the democrats, so I will vote on principle no matter what the rest of the republican party does.

 

They are giving you an alternative to another Obama term. They're not responsible for you Ron Paul fans creating fictional scenarios where anybody besides Ron Paul would be just as bad as Obama.

 

Yes, Rick Perry would be better than Obama. I would vote for Perry if he were the candidate. I would vote for any of them, INCLUDING Ron Paul, over Obama.

 

No, we were naive enough to think that Ron Paul fans were united in the idea that Obama must go, but obviously that isn't true. The majority of supporters in the other camps will still unite once their candidate is out, but not Ron Paul supporters. They have to be different. You guys should have stayed 3rd party.

 

The choices being giving now that are not Ron Paul are Newt and Romney, both of them support the individual mandate when it comes to healthcare and they support the neo-con foreign policy that Obama has adopted so please do tell me how voting for those two will change anything?

 

You were quite naive to take other people's votes for granted. What is even more naive is to think that this smear campaign launched by Republican faithfuls against Ron Paul will somehow get his supporters to vote the way you want them to. 95% of the people bashing Ron Paul and his supporters are Republicans and then you act surprised when those same supporters don't toe the party line.

 

Neither of them support the "individual mandate" known as Obamacare. And yes, both believe that something like a nuclear Iran is not something we can handle diplomatically. Genocidal countries who sponsor terrorism don't work that way.

By the way, I'm not currently a supporter of Gingrich or Romney. If they become the nominee, however, I'll be voting for them.

 

"Smear campaign?" Like Paul isn't running smear campaigns of his own? You guys need to abandon this idea that Paul is too special not to be criticized. Most of the attacks waged at any candidate at this point are going to come from Republicans. They are competing for the nomination. Once they secure it, 100% of the attacks are going to be coming from Obama and the Democrats' 1 billion dollar propaganda machine.

 

Nobody ever said that Paul is too special to be criticized. Just don't expect any of his supporters to come your way while you guys consistently lie by calling him a racist and an isolationist, or by insisting that he wants Iran to nuke Israel. I don't see the party machine going against anyone but Paul. So, either Paul isn't one of you or you are eating your own. Either way don't expect any love from his supporters. Nobody is voting for Paul because he's a Republican, they vote for him because they are tired of the Bush/Obama/Perry/Romney business-as-usual liars and crooks.

 

Yes, nobody ever said he's too special to be criticized, but like always, actions speak louder than words. Every single candidate has gone through the political wringer so far and has been attacked and scrutinized. Now that Paul is performing better in the polls, it's his turn. Yet, he and his supporters have shown that they are too sensitive to roll with the punches, like everyone else has done so far.

You're simply dreaming if you actually believe that the GOP establishment has not gone after and marginalized Bachmann, Santorum, and Cain, and that only Ron Paul is left on the outside.

If Paul gets the nomination, most conservatives will vote for him, whereas Ron Paul fans like you won't vote for anybody but him. That's the difference. He should have stayed 3rd party.

 

well their alternative has to at least be good enough for me to make it to the polls right?

 

Yes, that is the difference. Ron Paul supporters are voting for a candidate whose principles align with their own instead of simply voting against someone and taking whichever bumpkin ends up on the top of the (*)(*)(*)(*) pile.