Rule of Law in an Age of Terror

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  1. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "I went to Guantanamo Bay as a lawyer and came out as a broken father. I never thought in my lifetime that I would go to such an evil place, and see such evil being done." - Dennis Edney

    Dennis Edney, was Omar Khadar's Lawyer for eight years, talks about the "War on Terror", his visits to Guantanamo to see Omar where he witnessed the continued building of that illegal prison, and his frustration with the Canadian public's apathy to allow this to happen.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article29324.htm
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    Unfortunately, as I have seen on a Canadian Forum, many hate Khadr and his family. Even our Prime Minister hates Omar and does everything in his power to stop him from returning to his home in Toronto.

    I fear, if the US ever goes down, CANADA will be its evil successor.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When has it not been "the age of Terror" ?

    Folks often use terror when fighting for causes. The present is little different than the past in terms of the use of terror.

    The state use of fear (fear of terror) as justification transition into a police stater or to rally folks to war is no different either.

    Stalin pretty much wrote the book.

    Hitler learned the lesson well and called his program "Fatherland Security".

    Someone seems to have let Bush in on the secret but the name was changed to "Homeland Security".
     
  3. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you trying to excuse terror by stating it has always been around and therefore we should except it as part of society?

    I think, after all these years of man's existence and especially in this day and age of great knowledge and advancements in many fields, we should have developed more humane understanding and engage in more civilized behavior and interaction. Especially the US as the current world leader in power has an obligation to practice and show the rest of the nations how to treat one's fellow beings with absolute fairness and compassion.

    I think it is time to start a new era of understanding, compassion and tolerance, so that peace will finally have a chance to spread and flourish.

    I also think that we, the more tender souls, should never give up to point our finger at the evil being done on our behalf.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not sure how you got that out of my post ?

    My claim was that one terrorist act should not throw an entire country into fear and reaction mode for a decade and that great evil has been done in the name of " defending the motherland"
     
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    The law has become a total joke --it is absolutely disregarded, and that is what you call evil.
     
  6. diligent

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    The REAL Age of Terror was in the immediate aftermath of the French Revolution, commonly referred to as The Terror (The Reign of Terror). There were no legal beagles in those days to save you from the guillotine. Another Reign of Terror was the Salinist purges in the immediate aftermath of WW11, in which period the Rule of Law was thrown into the dustbin. Just ask Putin.

    This current period does not, under any circumstances, bear any comparison to these periods of Real Reigns of Terror. Read your history and you will soon know better!
    Here's a slight bit of info on this diabolical period, from Wilkepdia, to whet your appetite:

    'The Reign of Terror (5 September 1793, to 28 July 1794) (the latter is date 9 Thermidor, year II of the French Revolutionary Calendar),[1] also known simply as The Terror (French: la Terreur), was a period of violence that occurred after the onset of the French Revolution, incited by conflict between rival political factions, the Girondins and the Jacobins, and marked by mass executions of "enemies of the revolution." Estimates vary widely as to how many were killed, with numbers ranging from 16,000 to 40,000; in many cases, records were not kept or, if they were, they are considered likely to be inaccurate. The guillotine (called the "National Razor") became the symbol of the revolutionary cause, strengthened by a string of executions: Louis XVI, Marie Antoinette, the Girondins, Philippe Égalité (Louis Philippe II, Duke of Orléans) and Madame Roland, as well as many others, such as pioneering chemist Antoine Lavoisier, lost their lives under its blade.'
     
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    Wow! Canada as the "evil successor" to the US....now that is something to wrap your head around. The land of the fatally polite as fascists....

    Canada has, what, one one hundredth the armed forces as the US, abolished capital punishment in the 1950's, has probably less than a third the police force, per capita, has no Navy to speak of, is dependent on NATO to deploy its troops internationally and has fought in a total of two wars since 1946, both of them in a limited capacity...

    ...and you see a diabolical right wing semi-fascist conspiracy because one accused terrorist has been mis-treated and document it with a two sentence quote by a lawyer with an axe to grind.
     

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