Russia’s newest Su-30 multirole jets and Su-24 bombers practiced attack runs on NATO

According to international maritime treaties, American ships can not stay in the Black Sea for more than 14 days. Exceeding this term gives Russia the legal right to make a missile attack and destroy ships without a declaration of war the United States.
Read the Montreux Convention.

 

Think...really think.....what the U.S. response would be?

The entire Rusian Black Sea Fleet would be obliterated....all off shore Missile Batteries would be destroyed....and what would be the purpose of all this other than Putin acting like a fool?

AboveAlpha

 

Show the video at least one American (or any other aircraft), which can carry out for example such an element as "Cobra". I'm not asking you to show video of more complex air elements. At least - "Cobra".

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Oh well .... Very funny.

 

If that were true are you asserting its acceptable for a Russian jet to attack a US frigate for being there? Electronic attack is still an attack which can cause damage and malfunction to the ship.

Anyway, the frigate had only been there 2 days so your weak point is irrelevant. Russia is showing its stupidity and ignorance and its supporters here are backing up that poor form, probably because they are puppeting it ad nauseam without using their own brains.

 

I think I've seen an FA18E do it, but its of no relevance to modern warfare - even WVR.

Here's an F22 doing it, and come to think of it I think I've seen an F35 do it as well;

[video=youtube;RJO0KzTgcMI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJO0KzTgcMI[/video]

I get why you'd boast about it though, airshows are good propoganda and exciting for simpletons to get nationalistic about!!

 

His period of punishment has expired, but he wasn't in jail ... he has spent almost a year going 4 hours on Friday afternoon [only 4 hours per week] to make assistance to elders ...

 

That's good. He is a gay man. Under his rule, the economic situation in Italy was better? Or worse?

 

Finally the US Air Force in the fifth-generation aircraft was able to repeat the aerial elements of old Russian aircraft. (such as the Su-30 is available since 1993. More than 20 years ago.) Perhaps another 20 years, American planes can fly like the Su-35.

 

Your comparing different generations really, both directions backwards and forewards so its not a relevant comparison. Also, perhaps because USAF jets are designed for air warfare and the Cobra is irrelevant?

 

US authorities have said that it is inappropriate and scary, but they did not consider it illegal. Your opinion does not matter. I think for example that US warships have nothing to do in the Black Sea. So what? There Montreux Convention. And there are rules. Russian does not violate the rules. For Example not being bombed European country (Yugoslavia) without UN sanction.

 

Considering that the last government leaded by Berlusconi [2008 - 2011] had to face the tremendous effects of the financial crisis, economy in Italy was going well.

Berlusconi has been "fired" by a curious mix of interests and less or more hidden actors [overall in Germany and in EU tower] who managed to make it more and more heavy for Italy to sustain the debt. The result was the fall of his government and the arrival at Palazzo Chigi of Professor Monti [the Savior of Italy ... he left the office after about a year without doing a nut ...]. My opinion is that it was better to leave Berlusconi there.

Here there is who even thinks to a real coup to make him fall, a coup orchestrated by European lobbies.

 

Are you serious? Or is this a joke? .... When a missile attack, "cobra" may decide the outcome of the battle.

 

I'm certainly not an Italian citizen. And I do not have the right to advise the Italians in choosing the head of state. But I like Berlusconi. It's bright politician. And if you look at the boring face like Merkel and Hollande (not to mention the English), Berlusconi's just a star.

 

LOL, is that the best you can do. The ship was allowed to be there when the Russia's electronically attacked it so the Convention is irrelevant. Russia is getting given some rope by the West, lets hope Putin doesn't hang Russia with it.

 

How so? Proximity fusing means direct hits are not needed so rapid deceleration achieve nothing except a faster death and if the missile did not detonate for some mechanical failure, then your jet is a sitting duck while it recovers energy from the Cobra. Do you know anything about modern aerial warfare?

 

You are a fighter pilot?

 

I agree its like they are speaking out of two sides of their faces. One face side accuses of provoking a war, while the other face side insults the US military personal ...what gives???

 

This is categorically untrue....very poorly crafted Propaganda, but go ahead and spew it.

 

You deny the obvious.....However, I'm already used to it.

 

You are wrong. If anyone has offended the US military, it's Pentagon spokesman Stephen Warren.

 

One would hope, that if it were obvious and factual....you could provide some level of actual data to back it up rather than fabricated blog material.

When this lack is combined with the many other propaganda pieces you portray as useful information, it is extremely hard to take the "contribution" seriously.....particularly when no verifiable information can be found when searching.

 

Oh...and just to give you a bit of outside data to chew on:

"Russia’s Navy: More rust than ready
By David Axe
May 27, 2014

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On May 8, the British Royal Navy destroyer HMS Dragon sailed from the naval base at Portsmouth on an urgent mission — to find and follow the Russian aircraft carrier Kuznetsov and six accompanying vessels steaming through the English Channel.

“A Russian task group of this size has not passed by our shores in some time,” said Rex Cox, Dragon’s captain.

True, the Russian navy has been more active in recent months. Moscow annexed Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula with its strategic ports and asserted itself with troop, ship and warplane deployments along the frontier between Russia and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.

That’s important to the Kremlin because, historically, Russia has struggled to maintain warm-water ports. Seizing Crimea helps ensure Moscow’s access to ice-free waters for commercial and military shipping.

axe -- sub cross sectionBut Russia’s busy fleet schedule masks an underlying seagoing weakness. Moscow’s warships are old and unreliable. Yet the government is finding it increasingly difficult to replace them with equally large and powerful new vessels.

Russia is a geriatric maritime giant surrounded by much more energetic rivals.

In the final years of the Cold War, the Soviet Union was determined to match the mighty U.S. Navy on the high seas. Moscow funded the construction of its first three full-size aircraft carriers in the late 1970s and 1980s — the non-nuclear Kuznetsov and a sister ship, plus a nuclear-powered vessel. The United States then possessed 15 large aircraft carriers, most of them nuclear-powered. After post-Cold War force cuts, today the United States has 10 nuclear flattops plus another nine small carriers.

The Soviet Union’s collapse dashed Moscow’s naval expansion plans. The Russians managed to finish paying the Ukrainian shipyard to complete Kuznetsov. But there was not enough money for the other two flattops. Today, a new aircraft carrier can cost billions of dollars.

Commissioned in 1991, Kuznetsov was Russia’s last new large warship. In the past 23 years, Moscow has managed to complete a few new submarines and small frigates and destroyers at its main Sevmash shipyard, on the North Atlantic coast. But many of Russia’s current naval vessels — and all its large vessels — are Soviet leftovers.

They’re outdated, prone to mechanical breakdowns and wickedly uncomfortable for their crews — especially compared to the latest U.S., European and Chinese ships. Washington alone builds roughly eight new warships a year, including a brand-new nuclear carrier every four or five years.

axe -- pyotr velkyWhen Moscow moved to annex Crimea in March, the U.S. Navy promptly sailed its new flattop USS George H.W. Bush into the eastern Mediterranean to reassure NATO governments. Bush‘s battle group included no fewer than 60 high-tech warplanes and several of Washington’s modern Arleigh Burke-class destroyers, armed with missiles and guns for fighting planes, submarines and other ships.

In response, the Kremlin sent in Kuznetsov. The aging carrier — much smaller than Bush — carried a dozen or so Sukhoi fighters. Her six escorts included just a single heavily-armed vessel, the Soviet-vintage nuclear cruiser Pyotr Velikiy. The other five ships included one small amphibious landing ship plus three support tankers and a tugboat.

The tugboat was along for a good reason. On the few occasions when Kuznetsov leaves port, she often promptly breaks down. In 2009, a short circuit sparked a fire that killed one seaman aboard the rusting vessel.

Kuznetsov shadowed Bush in the Mediterranean for a few weeks, then returned home to northern Russia through the English Channel in early May. That’s when Dragon found her. For a more enduring presence in the Mediterranean, the Kremlin deployed one relatively modern destroyer, to reinforce Russia’s small existing Mediterranean flotilla.

AXE -- KUZNETSOVKuznetsov doesn’t have many years left in her. Her boilers are “defective,” according to the trade publication Defense Industry Daily. Yet when she goes to the breakers to be dismantled, Moscow could find it impossible to replace her. For one, the shipyard that built all the Soviet carriers now belongs to Ukraine. It lies just outside of Crimea, and Russian forces did not manage to seize it.

Moreover, Ukraine is still the exclusive supplier for many of the heavy components, including engines and gears, for Russia’s warships — even the ones Russia builds in its northern shipyard. With the continuing tense stand-off, Kiev recently banned arms sales to Moscow.

Russia’s attempts to revitalize its domestic shipbuilding industry have not gone smoothly. In 2005, India inked a nearly $1-billion deal with Russia for a rebuilt Soviet-era small flattop. Russia’s work on Vikramaditya was so poor, however, that she suffered a near-total breakdown shortly after her purported completion in 2012.

India finally accepted Vikramaditya this year — after the total cost of her refurbishment had nearly tripled to $2.3 billion. If Russia can’t even remodel an existing warship, imagine the difficulties it would face designing and building a big new ship from scratch.

axe -- fr helicopter carrier -- better!!Moscow knows its navy is in trouble. It seized on an extreme solution in 2011 — importing ships, technology and expertise from France. Russia signed a contract for two French Mistral-class helicopter carriers. Each ship costs more than $1 billion.

The plan was for Russian shipyards to help construct the vessels. “The purchase of Mistral shipbuilding technology will help Russia to grasp large-capacity shipbuilding,” Admiral Vladimir Vysotsky, chief of the navy at the time. “It is important for construction of ships like the future ocean-going class destroyer and later an aircraft carrier.”

Unsurprisingly, the Russian yards have proved incapable of handling intensive construction. In 2013, the Kremlin asked France to take over the bulk of the work. When Russia annexed Crimea, Paris threatened to cancel the ship deal. But France was reluctant to give up billions of dollars in revenue. Russia’s first French-built ship is nearing completion and could sail to Russia late this year.

PUTIN UNDERWATERBut buying two ships from France will do little to reform Russia’s shipbuilding industry if Russian workers aren’t directly involved in building them. Now deprived of the Ukrainian-made parts, Russia’s shipbuilding industry is arguably in worse shape than it was just a few months ago.

That bodes poorly for Russia’s future as a naval power. Dragon’s interception of Kuznetsov could prove to be a turning point. In coming years, large Russian warships could become a very rare sight.

The implications are serious for Moscow’s influence in the world — and for its ability to win a war against a maritime foe."
http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/05/27/russias-navy-more-rust-than-ready/

Ever stop to wonder WHY Russia is so bent on annexing Ukraine?

Basically, Russia is no longer a threat at sea for anyone....neither is the U.S, but that would be because it does not use the overwhelming power and technology for aggression. Should Russia decide to mess with our navy however....what there still is of Russian Naval capability would be very quickly turned into artificial reef.

Hey....hows that French ship doing for 'ya anyway...oh thats right...nevermind.

 

If that is a direct quote (bwlow in brackets) its fabricated or has been edited.

[Pentagon spokesman Col. Steven Warren, a Russian bomber flew twelve times at low altitude near the USS. Warren called such maneuvers frightening and unacceptable. They demoralize staff of the ship and have a negative impact on the overall psychological climate in the military.
Warren noted that the destroyer patrolled the waters to the west of the Black Sea, where the incident occurred. According to him, now the ship is safe in the Romanian port, where he was immediately evacuated. Members of the crew are the necessary procedures with a psychologist to recover after suffering stress. ]

reva

 

Wake UP Fools!

The initial Provocations are clearly American Provocations
& what you call Russian Provocations are responses to them

When you start kicking up dust in your neighbours yard, with whom you have
purposely encouraged and developed an Adversarial relationship. - You should
........ not be surprised if he puts the dogs on you, and chucks a few rocks in your
........................................ direction, unless of coarse it is , that you are STUPID

As far as all you Idiots measuring your metephorical penis-size , eg ( military HARD-ware )
with all of the Puerile Braggadocio of an Imbecile - as to who can kill more of the other.

I respectfully suggest that you all STFU for a moment. And I ask that you all for a moment
................................................................................................ THINK UPON & consider this:



If it came to confrontation that resulted heavy losses on either side, you would
very soon all be going to HELL - dealing with an ‘End Of Civilization’ scenario

This CRISIS is clearly one of American creation.
And it must take a Willfully Ignorant Exceptionalist of truly massive, deluded
.................................. and utterly Moronic proportions not to clearly realize that.

Russia now perceives an Existential Threat with the aggressive NATO expansion
virtually surrounding and hemming in its borders. It perceives the American intent
to establish an unanswerable ‘First Strike Capability’

It endures stiff economic sanctions, which in themselves may be interpreted as an
‘Act of War’. Together with an American precipitated Coup, and the establishment of
a clearly Thug Fascist regime in the Ukraine. A regime, which immediately began
to impose language restrictions upon the Russian majorities in its Eastern Provinces.
And then began a program of Ethnic Cleansing when the people there resisted

Russia rightfully perceives these actions as an 'Existential Threat' and the attempt
by the American Government to establish their clearly stated intent & goal of
“Full Spectrum Dominance” and “A Global NWO Yankee Bankster Hegemony”
which would place them under the Governance and Dictate of these Fascist Swine

Russia will never surrender their sovereignty to such an imposed Regime,
and your Washington Goons had best Wake the F%k Up to that Fact

So THINK ON THIS all you blatherskite Sheep, & American Exceptionalist blowhards

Who whether you know it or not - are Puppeting a Fascist agenda that has been
cynically sold to you, by a bought & paid for compliant Media, who’s ONLY
purpose is to Brainwash & Control you

THINK ON THIS – Which ever side initiates a ‘First Strike’ in any Nuclear
exchange, will be the side that gets the better of it, No matter how BAD that
that might be for the initiator .

THINK ON THIS – Russia perceives itself at a strategic disadvantage
A disadvantage that can only be redressed by a MASSIVE surprise ‘First Strike’
of their own. - And that, that surprise is best achieved BEFORE any conventional
..................................................................................................conflict begins.

Anybody who does not realize that present American foreign policy has put the
whole world at a terrible risk – IS a Stupid Blind & Manipulated Fool.

Who if he survives can THINK UPON these Warnings as you watch the Corpse of
Civilization corrupting in the Rubble as it & their loved ones Glow in the Dark –

Is the present trajectory of American Adventurist Imperialist policy worth these Risks ?
......................................................................................

Russia is NOT just another -
Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, Vietnam, Korea, Grenada, Panama, Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Guatalamala, Hati, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc
.

 

this is an act of war that will not go unpunished