Russia Considers Blocking NATO Supply Routes

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  1. MortAtticusAmsel

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    http://members.beforeitsnews.com/story/1434/710/Russia_Considers_Blocking_NATO_Supply_Routes.html

    This could mean the end of the afghan war... your thoughts?
     
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    Supplying from any direction but Pakistan increases the cost of supplies for the NATO forces 500%. What is Congress going to say if the Afghan bill triples because the USAF got carried away with its support mission? Would it be "go ahead and spend the extra billions" or would it be "let's get the heck out of Dodge"?
     
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    We should cut the Billions in Aid(Buying the Security of & Dismantelment of their Nuke Arsonal) to Russia then
     
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    Past tense,The War in Afghanistan is over WE Lost and the sacrifice was for NOTHING ,and who is to blame ,oh thats right the Government near me and you Human!

    Afghanistan 1 Us Coalition of NATO stuff up Mega stuff UP thank-u the un-United States of America former "Greatest Nation on Earth]thank-u the Global Socialist Revolution against Capitialism thank-you!

    Generations of Proletariet Soldiers of the Global Socialist Revoultuion THANK U !

    Military Defeat in Afghanistan ,wow bet u Cheney and Bush didn't think of that Possiblt happening .

    Veitnam Revisited!

    Without the Stalinists or Social Democratic Liberals to save them ,GOODY!
     
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    So Russia gets a small measure of leverage against the US and they use it to try to reduce the amount of protection we give to Europe?

    Why isn't Europe trying to get Russia to change their mind?

    Unless they would prefer to remain wide open to a missile strike. . .
     
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    The war in Afghanistan has never been won. The war in Iraq has never been won. The war continues and people continue to die in these wars.

    They die because they fight one another, driven by different beliefs and ideologies, some influenced by their occupiers, the American lead NATO alliance, and some influenced by religious fervour and even some riled up by the bitter past of crusades of old, Christian armies slaughtering and invading their way across the Middle-East, as they do today, and each is a powerful cause to their like minded peers, but all are a deadly mix of factors which tie in to fuelling Islamic conflict and bloodshed against the west and other Muslims who collude with the NATO forces for many generations to come.

    Which is why aggression in the Middle-East conducted by NATO is morally, and wholly wrong, hypocritical and, typically Christian Crusader type behaviour, a behaviour which instead of, as the corporate media push (for the government) that the wars are to protect us, the wars conducted by our armed forces at the orders of our globalist serving political establishments, are wars which make enemies, wars which destabilise regions, wars which serve themselves and no one else, not even you or me, because really, these political elite only serve to serve themselves and keeping the metaphorical foundations of their tower steady, the people must be at least in part appeased, however they seek to limit this appeasement by furthering their means and ability to control and direct the masses, firstly by isolating the political system from any other party which does not pull a Globalist agenda in the shadows, this is proven by Bush and Obama, Clinton and Bush, Thatcher, Blair and Cameron, what ever party comes to power, the nation is still headed only in one direction, and this is not what democracy should be consigned to, an isolated system, which seeks to serve itself at the cost of millions of people, at the cost of the environment, at the cost to everything else other than themselves so they don't have to foot the bill, even though their activities cause economic meltdowns and world wars.

    Their tools are chaos, patriotism, people who don't question what they were brought up to think, money, greed, dirty politics, hypocrisy, the army, and the ends justify their means, at the expense of the rest of us, and if anyone wishes to support such a system, you're welcome to it, but I hope you suffer for your decisions, because there are now millions of us, that are for theirs.
     
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    Pakistan also cocidering stopping air corridor!

    No supplies Russia none through Pakistan thats 90% of War supplies Stop the Air corridor thats 95%!

    Can any war be won on 5% of materiels getting through?
     
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    'Cos that's really in your favour! :fart:
     
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    I wish this mis-interprretation of the "European" missile shield would end.

    It does not protect Europe, it protects the USA. It's just located in Europe. So far from protecting us, it actually opens us up as a target.

    The UK and France's nuclear deterent on the other hand will do just fine.

    Please remove all US misiles from European soil.
     
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    Guess you guys are not aware that there are Duma elections this Sunday .
    The United Russia Party have dropped projected vote from 66% last election to around 53% .
    Little Dmitry and Vlad the Bad have both had poor run ups with the former sending audiences to sleep and the psycho being roundly booed at a sporting event last week .
    So now is the time to make even more silly pronouncements than usual .
    It will be past tense from next Monday unless United Russia results are even worse than so far envisaged .
    In that case , Who knows ? Vlad might even engineer another war with the Caucasus Emirate and try to win popularity by fighting the bogey men -- shades of 1999.
     
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    Russia Considers Blocking NATO Supply Routes

    Someone has to stop this US led murdering war machine!
     
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    Its your fault the war machine started. Shouldn't have supported dropping planes into our (*)(*)(*)(*)ing sky scrapers!
     
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    It goes back much further than 2001 . Ever since we played nurse maid to the Yanks in Europe in World War 2 they have been somewhat out of control .
    You just can't trust people who can't even understand Cricket -- let alone play it .
    Tragic .
     
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    In that case, they could respond, "Shouldn't have started bombing the Middle-East, supporting Jewish Israeli aggression, shouldn't have been building bases all over the Middle-East and shouldn't have attempted to control the Suez", and we could play this game all night but at the beginning of it all, it started because our nations were meddling in their homelands and not the other way around, until the terrorist attacks conducted by Al-Qaeda, which were long overdue because over half a century of meddling is a long time to consider reprisal attacks.

    Just because their nations are less developed, less formidable, less capable, doesn't give our Globalist serving governments the right to bully them into submission through bombs, occupations and regime changes, but as our governments have conducted themselves as such, peoples within them regions have more right to want us dead than the other way around, 9/11 was a wake up call, but it had the undesired affect for the majority of us, whether you supported it or not, the actions of NATO after 9/11 have sunk all our economies into a deep unbreakable cycle of debt, which is slowly sinking "our" or rather the western globalists, empire into, a global conflict, which we will all have to pay for, and many of us possibly with our lives, and this on top of the millions dead as a result of NATO's actions in the past 20 years, which has resulted in a-lot of bloodshed indirectly on OUR hands. Not terrorists hands but our hands and the governments we support and the globalists they support.

    Thus as such, how can we be better people than the terrorists the mainstream media like to portray as the reason why we allow our governments to kill so many, when like the passive Germans of WW2, we allow madmen to kill millions while we sit at home and drink our tea and eat our toast, and some of us even have the tenacity to support such government conduct.
     
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    LULZ.... Rounders and netball are great games for grown men to play...:mrgreen:
     
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    What a grossly ignorant thing to say to Abu Sina.
     
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    Absolutely. But if you're a hard right American, being "formidable" is reason enough to support your own economy by exploiting others through military force and economic bribary.
     
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    I was surprised these are so big in the US because we invented them just to keep our women folk happy .
     
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    Medvedev is already telling us to go f--- ourselves on that one.
    We are suffocating in debt, Russian knows this, and they are going to prove the outcome of the Cold War under Reagan was a fluke. All tactics are open for consideration by them toward this goal. Pakistan is going to close those supply routes. Russia will close us off on the north. The end result will be the all-important loss of prestige in the world... as if we haven't lost enough by electing an ignorant gold-bricking empty suit neo-modern Marxist communist dupe cardboard cutout of a president and sending his ignorant and embarrassing mouth around the world in our behalf.
    The so-called arms reduction treaty was Russia's first success at making us look like ignorant bufoons. There will surely be additional successes in the near future, like humbling us in Afghanistan.
     
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    unbelievable...
    The so-called "missile shield" will protect Europe. There is no doubt about that. It can also provide additional protection for other areas.
    Perhaps you need to look at the globe not as a flat surface, but apply Euclidean paths for missile trajectories and discover the necessary trajectories to strike Europe and North America from places like Iran. From Iran, a trajectory over Poland will put a strike into the center of the United States. If this is too difficult, you can also use the paths of intercontental flights to approximate the Euclidean trajectory.
     
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    Ummm, no, it was a resounding victory. We took out the Taliban, we took out Osama, we killed nearly all the top original AQ leaders. Now if Afghanistan can't solve its own corruption issues then that is not a loss on our part. That is soothing they meed to deal with themselves. In Iraq we removed Saddam from power and stabalised an otherwise disastrous situation by keeping Iraq from invading its neighbors, and Iraq's neighbors from invading it. Either conflict could have started a regional war. That regional war could have caused conflict from nations who have interests in the region.
     
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    UMMMM,OBL's assasssination is arguable,no evidence presented?

    The taliban is still going as is a general Insurection ,please ask if the President of Afghanistan feels safe!

    And as in Iraq a civil war still goes on!

    Iraq is exploding as soon as the withdrawal???Not victory cowardly withdrawal with nothing resolved concerning "stability".

    Not to mention that the Iraqi Economy [whats left after 30years of occupation and War]may slightly be effected by the coming economic collapse!

    As far as "Regional War"attacking Pakistan Military Bases with Airstrikes is oh,so stabilising to the Indian Sub-Continent,Russia and China back Pakistan against the US and NATO .

    So thats 3 of the biggest crazy Nations armed with Nukes and ICBM ones at that are real upset!

    Ummmm ,not to mention the 100 000 's of dead and wounded physically and Mentally on all sides .

    And of course ,the Working Class in uniform ,pays that cost as well !

    Oh and the lives of the millions of children that have been damaged ,stolen and laid waste !

    When the only success is failure and that my friend is no sucess at all!

    Next ,Iran,Syria,Israel \Palestine !

    Just keeps getting Bigger and more out of control or we end it for all time !

    Lest we forget the "War to end all Wars'!

    Freedom ,Equality ,Fraternity!

    The pursuit of Happiness ,Remember !

    The War in Afghanistan is over ,get ready for the Indian Sub-Continent Revolutionary Convulsion!

    Some can't see the forest for the Trees!
     
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    Yet the outside world still looks in and sees your President as the only man of any political stature .This possibly says a great deal about those around and beneath him .
    Unfortunately he has no policy options because the cupboard is bare and I doubt any other person would perform better .
    His only hope is to keep smiling and desperately hope that the Federal Reserve helps matters . Which is a bit like hoping that pot pissing will ease a national drought .
     
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    Funny you should say that ,the Fed,EU Central Bank and the Swiss and French and even German Banks have allowed the Printing of More money as credit!

    Everything they said they opposed last week!

    Merkel.last week said " We will not allow more Money Printing ,for fear of Hyper-Inflation".Credit crunch and Global Bubble of credit explodes or more credit creation?????/

    Top notch thinking all around ,Austerity of course for the Working Class everywhere ,Austerity or War!

    Good failing economic system called Capitialism!

    Marx called it the creation of "Fictious Capitial"we call it "credit" now!
     

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