Russia Declares War on Ukraine<<MOD WARNING>>

"Unoccupied enemy territory is still enemy territory" is an old military adage. The defender can move there freely. The attacker cannot. That's why occupying forces strive to have an eyeball on every part of enemy territory.

 

I agree, but my issue is that it presupposes there is no militia units or individuals (call them insurgents if you like) operating in these areas - which there probably is. The key word is "control" and I doubt they actually "control" these areas in a "conventional" way.

 

Its considered they control the highlighted territories, as in the defender cant use the roads as they are occupied and cannot move there freely there, if conventional forces like tanks or a division of Ukraine actually moves there then the map will change to reflect that. Don't think they have the assets at this point to mount much as they are tied up defending to many strong points and major cities.

 

I'm amazed at the equipment the Russians are using... OLD... BRDM's. T-62B tanks,.. and they haven't even shut off Ukrainian power or communications... those are usually the first targets.. then they line up straight as an arrow on a road and just stop... its crazy

 

Russia has changed its tactics. Putin had given the men orders before to avoid causing civilian casualties. He's not a Yanukovich though, where they were throwing Molotov cocktails at the police in Kiev and he refused to give them orders to shoot back. The Russian army has full orders now to shoot at anyone that attacks them - and they have.

You can thank Zalensky for that one - or rather thank the ones that he and the others get their orders from - because the real war is not between Russia and Ukraine. It's between Russia and those who have an economic stronghold on the world.

 

I understand, but these maps are meant to show conventional military control, there are some that show different data or in the case you are proposing they would show dark red areas as Russian present and dashed red lines to show no true presence but under influence with no Ukrainian military presence.

In Iraq for the most part when we collapsed the Iraqi military and were in Baghdad it would be mark as under our control, does not matter if there have always been militia, or groups, or resistance, or a guy with a mortar. It just means their military is not present and we conventionally controlled the capital. There has always been resistance incidents and tit for tat there to this day but you don't consider that conflicted.

 

Analysis: Russia's invasion of Ukraine is entering its second week. Here's what could happen next.
Analysis by CNN's Nathan Hodge, Tara John and Josh Berlinger

Russia's assault on Ukraine is just a week old, but its consequences have already been catastrophic.

In the seven days since Russian troops invaded their western neighbor, hundreds of people have been reported dead and one million have fled for their lives. Energy prices are skyrocketing, and food prices could be next.

No one can say for sure what will happen in the coming days and weeks, but years of relative peace and stability in Europe have already been ruptured, and should the fighting stretch on for months, the crisis could have even greater ramifications.

What happens to Kyiv? Russian President Vladimir Putin has been very clear about his basic goals in invading: He wants to disarm Ukraine, sever its ties to the NATO military alliance and end the Ukrainian people's aspirations of joining the West.

He has also said he wants to rid the country of what he calls the "gang of drug addicts and neo-Nazis that has settled in Kyiv and taken hostage the entire Ukrainian people," a baseless and highly-charged reference to Ukraine's democratically-elected government and its Jewish president, Volodymyr Zelensky.

Russian forces are encircling the Ukrainian capital, Kyiv, in an apparent push to topple the government, and a 40-mile-long military convoy is edging toward the city, which has been targeted by multiple rocket and missile attacks in recent days.

Zelensky has vowed to keep fighting, but he is under no illusions that Putin's forces "want to destroy Ukraine politically by destroying the head of state."

Should those forces take the capital, Ukraine does have other politicians who might be eager to fill the ranks of a pro-Russian puppet regime.

One of Putin's top allies in Ukraine is Viktor Medvedchuk, a prominent politician and oligarch. He faces allegations of treason in Ukraine and has been under house arrest, but his exact whereabouts are unclear.

Territorial goals: Russian forces are also waging campaigns far from Kyiv, attempting to take control of key cities in Ukraine's south and southeast, including Kherson.

The mayor of Kherson effectively admitted that Ukrainian forces had ceded control of the city on Wednesday, saying in a statement on his Facebook page that residents would have to accept the direction of "armed people who came to the city's administration" — in other words, Russian forces.

One former NATO commander told CNN: "It is quite clear that Putin is pushing for a land corridor to Crimea." Richard Shirreff, NATO's former deputy supreme allied commander for Europe, said the land corridor was "an obvious objective."

"He's had Crimea in the Russian Federation since 2014, he's only been able to supply it across the Kerch Strait bridge, and so of course he's looking to establish that land corridor down off the Sea of Azov," Shirreff added.

If Russian forces capture the port city of Odessa, it is possible to imagine Moscow creating a land bridge extending all the way across southern Ukraine, potentially even linking Transnistria — a separatist enclave in Moldova, where Russian troops are stationed — to Odessa, Crimea and southern and eastern Ukraine.​

Live updates: https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-03-03-22/index.html

 

So, you are “denazifying Ukrainians” by mass murder and enslavement?
Is that what liberation looks like to you?
Soon, average Russians will be embarrassed to identify their country of origin.

 

It might be if he pulls the nuclear trigger but MADD kept us all alive during the Cold War, it will do so again.

 

do you have language skills? That link looks like its in Ukrainian.

 

Yes. I am originally from Kyiv. I know 3 languages. I believe some browsers can translate the text for you.

 

CRT is an upper level law class. You couldn't teach it in public school even if you wanted to, the kids don't have the background. What you mean is the history of racism.


"The conservative roots of the Common Core are little known today. Even among reporters who cover the education
beat, few are familiar with, and even fewer have written about, the efforts of Ronald Reagan’s secretary of education,
William Bennett, to develop and promote a model core curriculum while in office. Nor have they recounted, except in
passing, the sweeping, self-described “crusade” that Senator Lamar Alexander launched to promote national stan-
dards and voluntary national assessments when he was secretary of education in the elder Bush’s administration."
https://www.brookings.edu/wp-conten...nservative-Roots-of-the-Common-Core_FINAL.pdf

Bush 2 campaigned for Common Core, but he eventually gave up, and it morphed into No Child Left Behind.

This is an early example of the 2 sides of the Republican party fighting. While the ideology of non-extremist Republicans prevented effective education reform, they did know it was needed.

There are a series of problems we need to face to fix education. One of them is we keep trying to do it on the cheap. It never works, and throwing reform after reform at schools just makes things worse. Republicans are the worst offenders, but they ain't the only ones.

But, bottom line, is the structure of our system is an antique. It needs to be replaced. You look at what the Finns do, it's not much like what we do. And it works really well.

Mom was a math teacher in the 60s and 70s. She got books on education reform, I started reading them in my college years. I have paid attention to the issue for half a century.

 

Russians will eventually go to war with the people who have an economic stranglehold on the Russian people. Putin and his enablers.

The second Russian revolution has already started. Hopefully it goes better than the first.

 

Wen was the last time the Finns went to the moon or invented the internet?

 

Rufo is a professional propagandist, and scum. He took an obscure law class and kept coming up with new lies about it. What I told you is a simple fact. It is an advanced law class that assumes you already know a crap load about law, and history, a little legal philosophy, and...

What you don't want is kids being taught the real history of the country. But your motivation is plain as day, so you need some BS to hide behind.

As I pointed out already, Republicans were pushing for the principles of Common Core in the 1980s. It hasn't got a thing to do with Ayers, it was one of Obamas numerous attempts to accommodate the Republicans. It didn't work, it was a Republican idea, as I have proven.

 

When was the last time you went to the moon or invented the internet?

 

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Russians have shown "willingness to hit civilian infrastructure on purpose," senior US defense official says

From CNN's Ellie Kaufman

Russian forces have shown a “willingness to hit civilian infrastructure on purpose,” a senior US defense official told reporters on Thursday. Previously, the official said the US was seeing Russians hit civilian infrastructure in Ukraine, but it was unclear if it was purposeful or not.

The official said the US can see Russians hitting civilian infrastructure on purpose in their targeting of structures like “media towers and media facilities.” They are also “hitting residential areas,” and, in places like Kyiv and Kharkiv, “hitting government infrastructure.”

“One of the things that we certainly have seen them do in places like Kyiv and Kharkiv is hitting government infrastructure with increasing bombardment, as we’ve watched over the last couple of days, as they’ve gotten somewhat geographically closer to some of these population centers, the bombardments have increased,” the official said.
“It’s clear they’re trying to weaken the governing structures that are resident in these population centers,” the official added.

US and other Western officials have told CNN that Russia's strategy in its war on Ukraine is shifting toward a "slow annihilation" of the Ukrainian military, warning that Russia could focus on a bloody and deadly bombardment of cities and civilian targets.​

Live updates: https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-03-03-22/index.html

 

Well, I REMEMBER Obama starting up COMMON CORE and I cited a source. So I can believe my own eyes and reputable source... or yo.You lose. And CRT is being taught to kids... revisit the source I posted... want more? Easy. Or just ask a parent who voted in Virginia.

 

Have you looked at our system lately??

 

My COUNTRY ... my brothers and sisters did.

 

Well, you must have been with a hundred yards or so of a hand grenade when it went off.
For an American that was pretty special. Wasn't it?

 

Not closely... just the what I read.... like CRT being forced into kids' schools.

 

Kill radius of a hand grenade is five meters.

 

Your source is a propaganda mill, and it helped Rufo push his lies..

Again, that's not CRT, you can have your delusions, but you don't get to make up your own facts.

You did not, and cannot, respond on point. The facts are Republicans were talking up common core principles 40 years ago...

 

Sorry kid... my source is largely living through it. Your propaganda doesn't cut it. Who the heck is Rufo? Your gardener?