Russia Declares War on Ukraine<<MOD WARNING>>

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  1. Melb_muser

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    My grandfather was a professional soldier even before the war started. He survived. Yes, the stories! :)
    Ah, I forgot to qualify, this was after WW2.
    I think they love hierarchies and authoritarianism, inside and out. An odd fit for communism...
    Yes, it looks like I was incorrect. Putin is after power and expansion and will probably continue until he faces opposition, either at home or abroad. Very changeable though. Watch that space.
    Scary thought. At the end of the day though, I think it comes down to who wants Taiwan the most. I.e. Who gives up first due to escalating human/financial/other costs.
     
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    The quoted post above is 100% lie.
     
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    My view is that Putin made huge tactical and strategic mistakes. Hence, his position and that of Russia will surely deteriorate in the short-run. In the medium run, things will stabilize in Russia but (unless the dynamics take things in the direction I have outlined regarding alliances with both Iran and China), Russia will be a diminished power. Even then, however, not in the kind of trouble you are hoping. While there will be significant elements in Russia opposed to what is happening,including among segments of the elite with vested interest in trade with EU et al, Putin will be able to ride it out with less popular support but with a majority still.
     
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    That's just cleansing the land of "them subhumans".

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    GLORY TO UKRAINE!!

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    Hey, a funny idea I just've. The afghanistan Taliban are in dire needs of funds and support. How about we pay for a few thousands of them to go to Ukraine to fight the russians like their fathers did! They're quite ressourceful and they're proficient with AK and RPG.
     
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    Har har.
     
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    Ukraine's President Zelensky urges Biden to give "useful" message in State of the Union

    Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has urged US counterpart Joe Biden to give a strong and "useful" message about Russia's invasion of Ukraine at his State of the Union speech on Tuesday, in an exclusive interview with CNN and Reuters from the bunker in Kyiv in which he is leading his military's response.

    "It's very serious ... I'm not in a movie," Zelensky, a former comedy actor, told CNN. "I'm not iconic, I think Ukraine is iconic ... Ukraine is the heart of Europe, and now I think Europe sees Ukraine is something special for this world. That's why [the] world can't lose this something special."

    More from Zelensky: The Ukrainian president earlier said the protection of the country's capital, Kyiv, is the “key priority” for the state.

    "We are fighting just for our land and our freedom," Zelensky told European Parliament today, causing the EU translator on the English language feed to choke up with emotion. "We desire to see our children alive. I think it's a fair one."

    "We are fighting for our life ... We are fighting for survival. This is the highest of our motivation," Zelensky said.

    "But we are fighting also to be equal members of Europe," he added. "I believe that today we are showing everybody that's exactly what we are."

    Zelensky requested for Ukraine to be added to the EU on an expedited process on Monday.

    He received a standing ovation across the chamber both before and after his speech.​

    Live updates: https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-03-01-22/index.html
     
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    They will not fight with Russians. They respect Russians. It's true, guy. Russia and Putin are very popular in the world now.
     
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    At least 5 killed in strikes near Kyiv TV tower, Ukraine interior ministry says

    From CNN's Paul P. Murphy, Olya Voitovych and Tim Lister

    Five people were killed and five more injured in strikes near the Kyiv TV Tower, according to the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine.

    The ministry released an operational update reading:

    “As of 06:00 p.m. 5 people were killed and 5 were injured in the shelling of the Kyiv TV Tower in the Shevchenkivskyi district. The work continues.”
    The update comes as graphic new video from a park close to the Kyiv TV tower showed several bodies and a continuing fire. The video was also released by the ministry.

    CNN's Nathan Hodge contributed to this report from Moscow.

    Live updates: https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-03-01-22/index.html
     
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    0.5/10... Even the russian competition judge gives you a failing grade for that one.
     
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    You have a problem with “subhuman” reference? Nobody will have a problem with it if they read entire statement, not just 1 word. ;)
     
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    I am not Nazi. Choose the words.
     
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    Guy, you don't know nothing. They dream we admit them. Russians now have no any problems when we travel in Afghanistan. But they hate Americans, like all the world.
     
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    Would it ever occur to YOU that both sides might LIE like Dirty Rugs ?
    .......................... and that both sides might Kill & Murder Innocents ?
    ..................................................................................... just like USA [​IMG]

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    ........................................................................ The Mai Lia Massacre

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    Did you vote for Putin?
    If you did - you are a nazi.
    That’s just what it boils down to. You people keep claiming that Pootin is popular and is a democratically elected leader - you enabled that fascist by eating and defending his outrageous propaganda and rhetoric toward your neighboring country! Now, because you, Russians, don’t have the balls to take down Pootin, he is committing a genocide in your name and is risking the lives of every Russian citizen by playing a Russian roulette with WW3.
     
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    Yes, calling any people "subhuman" in any context is disgusting. We all know where that language comes from. Apparently Yatsenyuk thought better of it, too, as he quickly edited it but not before it was captured as a screenshot.

    The "cleansing" has continued for 8 years. The day of reckoning has come.
     
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    The siege is now on for Kiev. Two days ago Russia opened a highway and has now sent an ultimatum for the people to leave so they wouldn't be used as human shields. They were also told to keep away from the government buildings.

    If they can't leave then they should enter the shelters since there is going to be a barrage of cruise and ballistic missiles. The TV tower was hit, and there have been casualties.
     
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    Turning Kyiv into Grozny is not going to win you any friends. ;)
     
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    Sorry, but I agree with Yatsenyuk - Russian mercenaries are subhuman. They are the people who don’t give a sh!t who to kill, as long as they are paid.
     
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    No, I did not. Therefore, it is a personal insult.
     
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    19 min ago
    US believes morale of Russian forces "is flagging" in some units, senior US defense official claims

    From CNN's Barbara Starr and Ellie Kaufman

    The US has “indications that morale is flagging in some” of the Russian forces’ units, a senior US defense official claimed on Tuesday.

    “We have picked up independently on our own, indications that morale is flagging in some of these units. That they again did not expect the resistance that they were going to get, and that their own morale has suffered as a result,” the official said.

    A significant number of the Russian military forces being used to invade Ukraine are “conscripts, very young men drafted into service,” the official said.

    “Apparently, again, we’re picking this up as best we can, but not all of them are apparently fully trained and prepared or even aware that they were going to be sent in to a combat operation,” the official added.​

    Live updates: https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-03-01-22/index.html
     
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