Russia is now king...hypersonic nukes can't be stopped!

I've already dealt with your unpleasant posts three times previously (Assange, Whitlam and Voltaire) and in each case extensively and factually evidenced and proved your hectoring ad homs and opinions to be the utterly uninformed nonsense they always seem to be.

So duly note: this is the last time I'll respond to your BS posts. Live in your hermit's cave and watch the flickering on the cave wall from the flames of your fire pit and believe in the phantasms that form in your mind to your heart's desire. I'll have nothing more to do with you.

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The one world order / government concept isn't in the least bit factually controversial. The fact is that it's been openly discussed and worked towards for centuries (HERE). You instinctively deny what is well known and has been well known for ages because your instincts stink - and besides, you're far less well informed than you think you are.

The quote is accurate. It was confirmed in his autobiography "Memoirs", on Page 405 as quoted above in an earlier post.

("Some even believe we [Rockefeller family] are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - One World, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it").

Rockefeller's position is not at all unusual and was drawn from his very close association with the CFR, which is the sister group of England's Chatham House. David Rockefeller was a Director Emeritus and Hon. Chairman of the CFR (HERE).

Carroll Quigley, a historian and professor at Georgetown was given access to the confidential files of the CFR and from the data he obtained in those archives he wrote his book Tragedy & Hope. This is what Quigley said about what he called the "network" (the Anglo-American Establishment of that period):

'I know of the operation of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted for two years during the 1960’s to examine its papers and secret records. I have no aversion to it or to most of its aims and have for much of my life been close to it and to many of its instruments. In general my chief difference of opinion is that it wishes to remain unknown.'

On page 324 of Tragedy & Hope, Quigley wrote the following about the aims of the CFR and the "Oxford Group" (that founded Chatham House and brought the CFR into being):

"...the powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences."

Hence the comments by Rockefeller about being part of a supranational intellectual elite and world bankers - he was Chairman Emeritus of Chase Manhattan.

Meanwhile, the Oxford Group was founded by Cecil Rhodes (set out in Quigley's book the Anglo-American Establishment - yep, I've read that too) that became the "high cabal" - to use Churchill's words - behind successive British governments. To this end Rhodes established the Rhodes Scholarships that originally included members from the British Commonwealth, the USA and Germany (Germany was suspended during WWI and then permanently excluded just before WWII).

One well known Rhodes Scholar is Bill Clinton - (I have a personal copy of the Rhodes Scholars membership handbook, listing all members). Clinton is also a member of the Trilateral Commission founded by David Rockefeller. Clinton wrote the following in his book My Life. On pages 338-339 he stated the following:

"I ended 1987 with my third speech of the decade at the Florida Democratic convention…

I told the Florida Democrats, “We have to do nothing less than create a new world economic order and secure the place of the American people within it.”

Let me now quote from the April 1974 Foreign Affairs, the house journal of the CFR.

http://www.thepowerhour.com/articles/HardRoadtoWorldOrder.pdf

The writer of the foregoing went on to explain that the UN had not achieved the aims that had been set for it and that:

Same source

Quigley's statement I referenced earlier "...the powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole... in a feudalist fashion... " by bankers is what today has become known as the neoliberal economic order (HERE).

The Rockefeller has an awful history of greed and superiority. For example, during WWII John D Rockefeller was investigated under the Trading of the Enemy Act for supplying fuel oil via Standard Oil tankers to Nazi U-Boats (HERE and HERE). The Rockefeller's also had secret cartel agreements with I G Farben the outfit who developed Zyklon B to gas the Jews with in the death camps. The Rockefeller Foundation also helped fund the Nazi eugenic programme and even funded the Josef Mengele 's work before being transferred to Aushwitz.

This is a vile and obnoxious family - but here you are wriggling and conniving to defend it's virtue.

It speaks volumes about you personally imo.

 

As little as many here even care, President Putin is well aware of the poverty in Rossiya as is evidenced in his 01 March 2018 National address.
If you care to honestly listen, I provide the video link on RT nonetheless.

 

Thanks, but I've already read the entire transcript.

I stand by my comment, as the most obvious comparison to the Putin years are the Yeltsin years. In that regard, my "pretty good" comment would be seen as an understatement.

 

Sorry Yaz but it really isn't.
The Russian government have a nasty habit of confiscating any foreign investment that proves profitable.

 

It was years after the fall of the Soviet Union to the beginning of sanctions. The Russians screwed up.

How come resource rich countries like Canada and Australian attract investment?

Ahem. What about your claim Yugoslavia was too big to absorb as a whole?

The workers go to their news jobs and away from the old collectivist factories. It happened in Eastern Europe and China.

Both sides are wasting a lot of money.

Why on earth do you believe this nonsense?

The governments of eastern Europe were Soviet puppets.

Thus, NATO to stop the Soviet from gobbling up more countries.

It has nothing to do with the captured provinces being a threat.

Lame excuses for imperialism.

Ah, Russia wanted it, so....

Uh huh. Like Russia will ever let go. Ditto Georgia provinces. I find the Russians disgusting and hypocritical. But that's nothing new for Russia, a country that has never had a democratic government.

It reminds me of Americans making excuses for attacking and dismembering Mexico. Lies and excuses. Shameful stuff.

 

Uh huh. My ego ... all because I don't agree with your conspiracy theories.

The internationalist corporate types want an international order so they can make money. I don't think they want a world government that might well stop them from looting, nor do they want a world dominated by nationalist governance. They seem to want the sweet spot they have now. Do we want to stop them? That's up to people.

You don't seem to care for logic. You prefer half-baked nonsense where the like of David Rockefeller worked to create a world government when there's no evidence for your theory.

 

read more here: https://russianmilitaryanalysis.wordpress.com

 

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here, ignore the predictable insults and point out that I was referring to the quote in the youtube video that you seemed to put so much store in. That is the one I have questions about. You are passing it off as accurate. Do you have any sort of credible source for it?

No dodging & weaving this time. Where does it come from? Is there any evidence it is real?

If you can't or won't reply I'll take it as an admission that you know you are trading in highly questionable sources that shouldn't be passed off as in any way accurate.

 

We were sort of busy having defeated soviet tyrants. First we believed your propaganda. Than we destroyed our "corrupt state" and then we found ourselves just in the situation every nation who trusted american propaganda has to face. Total corruption. All these numerous bankers, murderers, thieves who 'escaped' from Putin's regime were killing, robbing and terrorizing people. Not a single one of them has ever been convicted. You don't even return them to Russia after you get official requests of Russian prosecutors. Secondly we had civil war with the ISIS-like guys which you supported. They slaughtered our kids and women when you were trusting propaganda about their right to fight for the freedom... And only then we had less than a decade to restore, rebuild and we managed to do quite a lot.

They don't have sanctions imposed. They don't have any anti canadian and anti australian propaganda in western media... I was asking every american or european to give my a link to one positive news about Russia for every 10 negative news about Russia in any serious not Russia sponsored media. So far I didn't have any example of non-biased media and this is why I call it all propaganda. We have victories, successes, breakthroughs, inventions, love and friendship... Have you ever heard of it anywhere? The investors are as educated as you. So they would invest to any country prescribed to them by special indexes for dummies, which gave the US highest possible level even since we all agreed here that the US will never be able to pay off.

And I don't refuse of these words. Yugoslavia would have its say in EU, its opinion. When did you hear any independent opinion from any of the parts of former Yugoslavia? Was it in 2017? 2016? 2015? ... It was bombed in order to be run by other people and not on their own.

Nope. The eastern Europeans went to work to western Europe and chinese went to newly built factories.

Prove it to be nonsense.

No they were not. So when Mr Jaruzelsky refused of the help of other countries and crushed the rebls himself no country of communist block interfered. There was freedom of actions for countries of eastern block. Of course it had military limits. As always. If Japan starts to kill american soldiers like Chech people were killing soviets you would probably nuke them again without thinking of any will of the people and freedom fighting.

That is nonsense for the dummies. NATO was created as an offensive alliance. It has never defended in its history and will never defend neither Turkey nor Greece nor anyone else. Its not designed for defense.

I really pray that Russia will never ever ever EVER have any democratic regime which is found OK in american propaganda and every dummy who belives it. I saw it all in the 90s. It's better to die and kill then to live under such a regime. You want it - you have it. I don't want it. Spare me of new Yeltsin or Trump. Leave me with evil Putin.

Mexicans didn't attack american soldiers and people of the same origin as americans. Mexicans weren't allied with deadly rival of the USA. They were an easy pray. Georgia lost the possibility to kill ossetians. Their land was left for them. Russians are not in Georgia now and haven't installed any pro-russian regime there. It's up to georgians. Some day they will get free and choose their way. 10, 100 or 1000 years. Russia has this time.

 

Care a couple of examples of such a behaviour from evil and corrupt Putin?

 

Like we don't have a black projects arm of our military my bet we have tons of cool things to decimate enemies if we need to bring them online. We just don't advertise our orbital particle beam earthquake guns and laser systems to blast leaders from orbit and super stealth sub engines we can bring in when its needed.

 

Ha-ha-ha)) another dreamer))) For laser weapons requires a compact and powerful nuclear reactor to be placed in space. You have been watching too many stupid Hollywood movies.

 

Oh, please. You didn't have to set up a kleptocracy. You drove away capital investment.

An absolutely absurd take on what happened.

Disgusting propaganda.

You created a kleptocracy and drove investors away.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/russians-cut-back-on-drinking-smoking-as-fitness-trend-grows-1.3762168​

How about a democracy, period?

 

Deep State ate our president and I am still ate up about it.

 

One thing the PENTAGON War Mongers have learned - Putin does NOT bluff

Though they will publicly deny even the existence of these Weapon Systems
in their carefully controlled MSM, they now know that they are now constrained
and their much vaunted Carrier Battle Groups have become Bath Tub Toys

Russia Successfully Launches
The New 'Kinzhal' Hypersonic Missile System


Newly Revealed Russian Weapons Systems: Political Implications
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/48928.htm

 

The cleptocrats in former Soviet Republics were installed with the blessing of the US. Some of modern rulers in former soviet republics are physically connected with the US being citizens or having an American wife or something of that kind. It is the US which uses cleptocrats (in the best case) or criminals like ISIS (in the worst) to secure their interests.
In order to drive away capital investments we needed to have any. I wonder when Russia got it?

I can't argue with such arguments... But it doesn't mean that they are undisputable.

You repeat the same nonsense. Without any fact or argument.
If you told me (even without proving) that before 2000 Russia had major western corporation building their industries in Russia and investing billions into anything, but since evil Putin came to power or after 'annexation of Crimea' they all or their major part had to leave because of certain cleptocratic actions (which, where)... Then I will look for the information myself. And if it is true I would agree to it. If it is disputably true, I would come with counterarguments...
But you don't discuss. You try to scream your propaganda louder keeping your eyes and ears closed. That's difficult for successful communication.

I don't see any connection between the drop of bad habits among Russians and democracy to be honest.

 

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/wo...hypersonic-missile-test-vladimir-putin-dagger

I can't find the discussion about the carriers we had lately and if they are invincible or not. With this hypersonic rocket flying 2000 km at a meteor speed we have quite a new reality for these really big, really expensive and powerful vessels.

Of all these stories I am shocked by a reaction of public. They actually get the response as a challenge! A week ago we were discussing if the US can attack Chinese or Russian forces with carrier and discussed if the US could or couldn't attack Russia with prompt attack hitting the few missiles launched in a response. Now with new weaponry of Russia these discussions are ended. No. The US is not able to attack, get the job done and go unpunished. But that doesn't mean that with any of these weaponry the US is not able to answer the first nuclear attack! All the new weaponry doesn't make the US an easy prey. It only downgrades the US from a position of the ONLY military power in the world which is able to dictate any conditions or actions threatening complete annihilation. And just THIS reality is perceived as a threat! Amazing! Do you really mean it? Do you really like as people the position when you can dictate the other nations what to do only because you are stronger??!! It's an awful surprise for me. I really expected a human-like behavior. If I was in your place I would say that under the circumstances the US and Russia need to start the negotiations to accept the responsibility and to work for world peace... What I saw is awful... and disgusting.

 

Sad to say it's no surprise to me.

The attitude you outline above is that of a bully, who by definition is "a person who is habitually cruel or overbearing, especially to weaker or smaller people".

 

It's a weird thing but bullying seems to be getting more and more pervasive in all walks of life (even in our seat of government with Squeaker Bercow doing a lot of it?), and gawd - do I hate bullies!!!!!

 

These kind of people never contribute to the world. They always take and waste rather than give and produce.
I don't deny that the world was running for centuries on western ideas, inventions, theories, ideologies, concepts, goods etc. Whatever is said about the period in 20-30 years (I am afraid that it will be HUGELY criticized by Chinese and Indians) I personally feel myself as a part of this long history. But the strength to carry the weight of the world is based not on the bullies but on a concept of a good person, a largely Christian concept! I haven't seen such an attitude prevailing here and believe it to be the core reason of the global change we have to face.

 

Me too, Cerb. I've fought them all my life.

 

I believe that bullying of the weakest and most vulnerable in society is a sure signal that the afflicted society - indeed even mankind in toto - is on self-destruct. Sorry if I've spoilt anyone's day!

 

A man after my own heart then, SH - and it doesn't surprise me. I obviously don't know what your background is (although I'll take a guess at journalism) and I'll bet you have a lot of stories to tell.

 

And to judge from the smiley - Fleet Street!! More accurately than that - El Vinos, or The Bell. And a greasy double-fried egg sandwich from Smokey Joe's if you were there in my day.