Russian Elections

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    I do not profess to be more knowledgeable about Russia and it's politics other than what I catch on the news. But interesting to note the recent election.

    Good news Putin is losing support.
    Bad news the Communist Party made gains.

    Thoughts about the future over there?
     
  2. raymondo

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    Let's wait to see what fraudulent result they give out .
    You are right that the little chappie is losing support but after he was jeered last week the spin machine has been working ruthlessly .
    And there were thousands of complaints yesterday .
    Haven't you noticed that the FSB plants have been missing from here today ?
     
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    Since when ER decreasing support is "good" and communists increased support is "bad"?
     
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    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    Putin does not need any support, the mind of people is not interesting for him.


    So-called "Communist Party" makes Putin's Puppet like "president" Medwedew it do.
    No one TRUE OPPOSITION PARTY is allow to run in Putin's "elections" ( HaHaHA, probably the North Korea has more fair Elections! )

    The Future is easy.

    After Putin "win" the next "elections" again the country will be completely destroyed, broken in twenty parts, without manufacturing or economy, governed by meaningful gangs of criminals.Russia has not any future, therefore its best people already flee away.

    "Pora Valit" - "It is Time to flee" - The most popular mood in Russia.

    http://translate.google.de/translat...&u=http://pora-valit.livejournal.com/&act=url
     
  5. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    That is a shame, the Russian peoples are a great and wonderful people. If they only had the freedom and liberty to be the best they could be instead of living in oppression and corruption.
     
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    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    If Putin's "Elections" would be Free and Fair the Putin's Party ER -
    "The Party of Thieves and Crooks" would have been received 1 - 2 % of all votes, even in USSR, North Korea, Syria, Iran and Gitler's Germany the elections were twenty times more free and fair.
     
  7. raymondo

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    Yes Putin has taken an absolute thrashing .
    Just imagine the real result!!
    Now the Russian people will wake up and realise that we can kick out the Mafia Gangsters .
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    We must wait and see what repressive measures the Dwarf tries to introduce , but it looks like a Historical Tilting Movement might have been reached in Putin's Fascist State .
    Let's drink to that
     
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    Unfortunately Russian people knows that Putin's Regime will kill millions and drown the country in see of blood if Russia will try to free themselves from his regime. The police troops and KGB have more people as the Army itself, all true opposition leaders are either murdered or incarcerated.
     
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    Already two retar....hm...persons are flooding in this thread. Have no more important business?
     
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    Nothing is happened, calm down, Putin do not need any elections, if the situation would be danger for him he will immediately end the masquerading and impose the Martial Law where every oppositional will be immediately killed.
    As long as Western Countries purchase his gaz and allow to hide stolen by Russians money in its banks he will relaxes and laughs about any critic.
     
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    Ostap ,
    Do not worry .
    The first thing to accept is that the Russian people have taken a first and huge step to tell the Dwarf that his time is over .
    Money has been flowing out of Russia for more than 18 months . Georgia showed them to be Pariahs .
    Russian Banks are on the edge .
    Even Gazprom , Putin's personal slush fund , is in trouble .
    Ray will be here to tell you which way the Dwarf is wriggling .
     
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    We will see, do not underestimate KGB!
     
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    I have followed the "KGB" since the times of Beria .
    The FSB are a ruthless and wicked State Security force .But once there are one or two acts of martyrdom , a movement can morph out of thin air
    Russia is coming closer to bravery and martyrdom.
    They are about to win back self respect .
     
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    Today's Russian people are infinitely better off than they were just 20 years ago. Yea, the progress is somewhat slow, but it's there nonetheless. Take it from someone who's done business with Russkies over the last 20 years :-D
     
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    The difference between the Russians and the Westerns is that the Russians quate understand that the elections are fake, while the Westerns are stupidly sure that they really choose something.
     
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    Early morning ( GMT) Reuter's report

    MOSCOW (Reuters) - Vladimir Putin's United Russia party is likely to have 238 seats in Russia's 450-seat State Duma lower house of parliament after Sunday's election, Central Election Commission chief Vladimir Churov said on Monday.
    The forecast, based on a nearly complete preliminary count that gave United Russia 49.5 percent of the votes, would give the prime minister's party a relatively slim 13-seat majority in the Duma. It previously held 315 seats.
    Churov predicted the Communist Party would have 92 seats under the complicated division of seats, followed by Just Russia with 64 seats and Vladimir Zhirinovsky's nationalist LDPR with 56 seats.
     
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    And here is part of this morning's comment in Al Jazeera


    The loss of its two-thirds parliamentary majority means the party can no longer amend the constitution unchallenged.

    The drop in United Russia's popularity appears to reflect a sense of disenchantment with Putin's authoritarian course, the party's failure to address corruption and the gap between ordinary Russians and the super-rich.

    "There is quite a subtle shift in the political mood here in Russia," Andrew Osborn, Moscow correspondent for the UK's Daily Telegraph, told Al Jazeera. "This is the first sign things might be changing. People are not willing to put up with the total dominance of one party anymore."


    Communist Party leaders and other parties denounced the elections after polls closed, complaining of irregularities aimed at boosting United Russia's vote count, including intimidation of voters and other accusations of unprecedented dirty tricks by the authorities.

    Communist leader Gennady Zyuganov said his party monitors thwarted an attempt to stuff a ballot box at a Moscow polling station where they found 300 ballots already in the box before the start of the vote.

    He said incidents of ballot-stuffing were reported at several other stations in Moscow, Rostov-on-Don and other areas.

    In Vladivostok in the east, voters complained to police that United Russia was offering free food in exchange for promises to vote for the party.

    Only seven parties had been allowed to field candidates for parliament this year, while the most vocal opposition groups have been denied registration and barred from campaigning.

    Al Jazeera's Neave Barker, reporting from Moscow on Sunday, said that Golos, the country's only independent election observer, had reported that more than 5,000 irregularities had been recorded, mostly related to people being pressured to vote for United Russia.

    "There have been some skirmishes today in and around Red Square," our correspondent said. "The capital is on lockdown, and the police are looking for any sign of trouble, with more protests expected later on."

    'Theatre of the absurd'

    Speaking to Al Jazeera, Garry Kasparov, a political activist and former world chess champion, said: "All the other parties participating in this so called election are 100 per cent under the Kremlin's control. Voting for them is to vote for puppets in the theatre of the absurd."



    About 30 opposition protesters gathered by the Kremlin screaming: "Your elections are a farce!" through loudspeakers. Twelve were detained by police, Reuters witnesses said.

    Golos and two liberal media outlets said their websites had been shut down by hackers intent on silencing allegations of violations.

    Golos said its "Map of Violations" website documenting reports of fraud was inaccessible due a cyber-attack and its email was paralysed.

    Golos also said it was excluded from several polling booths in the Siberian Tomsk region.

    Many election violations involved absentee ballots, said Liliya Shibanova, Golos' director. People with absentee certificates were being bused to cast ballots at multiple polling stations, she said.

    Moscow prosecutors launched an investigation last week into Golos' activities after legislators objected to its Western financing.

    Customs officers held Shibanova for 12 hours at a Moscow airport on Saturday, seizing her laptop computer in what the group said was an attempt to stop it monitoring the election.
     
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    Very good test for the Russian presidential election.
    If our enemies do not want to Putin was the president of Russia - it means we should vote for him and vice versa if the West is compliments of a man (like Gorbachev) - this means that he is an enemy of Russia.

    For raymondo grief-stricken, I specifically tell you that I will vote on March 4, 2012 presidential election for Putin.
     
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    "Business" with "Russkies" is purchasing their cheap commodities and selling of all western garbage to them, the paid money go to the Western countries back and are being hided by its banks. Estimated 80 % of all Russians make not more as $2K annually, Putin and his Oligarchs have completely destroyed anything in this former rich country.
     
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    You will vote for Death of Russia!
     
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    IQ<<<<<<<<<60
    Average income is 9600$ by 2010.
     
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    Why your corrupted officials, educated people, oligarchs, "businessman" , almost everybody who has money prefer to live in the West, but not in your Russia?
     
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    Since when thieves and kolbasniks are "almost everybody"? Don't judge other people by your standards, Ostap. God doesn't like it. Better to spend your time on looking for Muslims under your bed. Not sure it would be useful, however. I assume that Europe is lost from your thread.
     
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    According to the Russian Federal Statistic Agency in 2010:

    13,4 % make fewer as 3,422 Ruble / monthly
    27,8% make between 3,422 and 7,400 Ruble / monthly
    38,8% make between 7,400 and 17,000 Ruble / monthly
    10,9 % make between 17,000 and 24,000 Ruble
    7,3 % make between 25,000 and 50,000 Ruble
    1,1 % make between 50,000 and 75,000 Ruble monthly.
    0,7 % make above 75,000 Ruble montly.

    Also, 90,9 % of all Russians are poor.

    $1 = 41 Ruble

    Do not forget that Russian Officials Statistic is fraudulent and higher at least two times.

    Source:

    http://translate.google.de/translat...u=http://www.rf-agency.ru/acn/stat_ru&act=url
     
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    Do not measure your thieves with the citizens of the Free Western Societies.
     

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