Russophobia explained.

Is it all you could find, dude? It's definitely not the Red Square, but it's really Moscow. This is a very famous photo of the Russian March. These guys are football fans and did it for money. The arranger of all that **** (Dmitry Dyomushkin) sits in a prison now. It doesn't seem like the fascist junta. But Ukraine is the real nazis state. They torture and burn people. Do you want I show to you a video where Ukrainian Nazi burn people in Odessa?

No, I detect only the fascist symbol of the Ukrainian battalion "Azov"

near the statue of Bohdan Khmelnytsky in Kiev.

You again are bringing a stuff. Say, dude, do believe or not Ukrainian TV? Yes or No? I want show to you a couple of videos.

Is it the Ukrinian TV? No again? You are just Mr. NO

It's easy, dude. You write English like a Russian. I'd say you write Russian phrases with English words. We, Russian, do not use articles (a and the) because they are absent in Russian. Instead articles we use an order of words in a sentence. But Latvian language has constructions that work like articles. Therefore they build a phrase differently.

But Tofiks can't speak Latvian, Tofiks only "mācās latviešu valodu" doesn't he?

 

I just do not look for more because it proves nothing about the state. But if you read yourself or your comrades here, some ideas about "slave nations" or "nation's as diagnosis" by itself look like nazi ideas. So who are you after theese words? By the way, how do you know, that pictures with nazi flags,wich you posted here, was not photographed becaise of money?

With jew prime minister? Original nazi state... But you dont know what it is"nazi state", you have been told that Ukraine is nazi state, so you just repeat it.Thinking is not involved here.

Why it's fascist symbol? As i know, this symbol is much more older than fashizm itself..

I did not saw the same people, which was on photos and which, as you told, raped one year old girl. My knowledge of ukrainian is poor, but as i undersud "nazi state" arrested some memers of batalion because of criminal activity and disbanded batallion. State definetly "helped" them. And what is funny, the olny one who talked russian was the member if this battalion.

You dont know Latvian.

 

I asked you one question. You answer me other question. Do you really talk to me?

Aha... Is it your argument? Oh, that Latvian trolls...

Look at them one time more:

You too.

 

OK. Did Latvians have their own state before 1918 or they were slaves of other nations?
Why when Latvians got their own state they killed ALL Jews in Latvia? Could I name you as fascists after it?

DSP engineer.

 

My compliments on your perception and the succinct rhetoric chosen to elucidate the indisputable fact. I call them 'the useful idiots' and I'm sure fundamentalist Islam is very grateful to them for making it easy.

 

I gather from this morning's BBC news that not only does the CIA know what happened in the past, they can also predict what'll happen in the future too . . .

"Russia 'will target US mid-term elections' says CIA chief"

I mean WTF is going on over there?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42864372

 

If its bad argument, you can give yours. By the way, the flag of Russian federatoin in WW2 was used by pronazi RONA units. Does it meens that Russia is nazi state?

And what should i find in this photo? Two unknown people with nazi flag. And so?

 

So, you do not know Latvian, but you feel strong enough to tell other people about the nances of Latvian grammar? And you think that this is not an absurd?
Here we can see the classical example of people who can not understand the boundaries of their own competences. He feels like the expert at the all questions in the world.

 

This is Bla-bla-land, guy. I give to you arguments. You skip them and continue to write nonsense... Do you work as a generator of the anti-Russian nonsense?

 

So, so true!

I keep talking to Lefits ( and now some Rightists are jumping in!) who are makingthis HUUUUUGE deal out of the fact that Russiawould have interest in our political structure and try to put sympathetic messages towards their way of living. Uhhhh, yeah, this has been goin on for millenia....

Yet we have people now calling it collusion and treason and evil and blah blah balh ...

Of course Russia got involved, just likwe get involved everywhere else. People are just pissed off because they are too lazy to go get the truth themselves and so they believe the crap they they hear an see on the news which is in fact, nothing but untruthes.

 

I can give to you an argument... I can do not... In any case you'll say, that I didn't give arguments to you... Latvia is a country of wild Russian trolls.

As you were taught in school we we hung them. Do you know a nazi state that executes nazi???

They are officers of internal affairs ministry. According of the official site of this ministry. The battalion "Tornado" (previously "Shakhtersk")

 

How can you give any arguments in the question about the grammar of language, which you don't know at all? You don't see an absurdity of this situation?
As i said before, there is a huge problem with logic thinkig to wictims of russian brainwashing system. Thats why propagandists can tell these people, that Ukraina is a nazi state with jew prime minister and multiparty system, they can tel them ANYTHING, and they will believe, becuse they dont even know what it is "nazi state", but they just want this bullshit to be a true.

 

I do not know how, but I already had given them to you. And you don't want discourse that. You can produce bla-bla-bla only.

Stepan Bandera was a Jew too.

 

I bet you, without knowledge how, can discuss about grammar of all the languages in the world? The true expert of the all questions in the world.
What discussion you expect about grammar of language, that you even dont know? I, as a native speaker, can only teach you, thats all.

And so?
You don't even know what it is the nazi state.

 

It is time to understand, that spreading the absurd bullshit and mechanically repeating the dogma of russian propaganda is not an argument.

Yes, nazi Germany for example executed the leader of SA - Günther Röhm. Its stange, if someone uses the same symbols as nazis in Ukraine, even if its not originaly nazi sybols, that Ukraina is nazi state, if same is happening in Russia, than Russia is not s nazi state.

According to the video, that you posted here, "Tornado" was disbanded. And even they are an officiers(you recognize them by faces?), than what?

 

You don't discourse my arguments again. Why? You look like an idiot, I look like a person that talk with an idiot... What is our target now? Would you like to fall from your window with shout "Russians are coming"? Why not? All idiots do it!

Pardon? Don't you know who is Stepan Bandera ??? Wow...

You are right. Latvians know that more better. You even had built such state.

 

So, if some nation do not have the state before 1918. then they are slave nation? An you are the member of... masters nation? Interesting ideas, but not so original. Nazi had the similar thoughts.
And if someone told you, that latvians killed all jews, an you once again believed on word, it does not meen, that it have something common with reality.

 

Every serious organization, state or private, (except those which are narrowly focused within the borders of one state), that has the power to do so tries to influence governments everywhere on the earth. That's a side-effect of the process we call 'globalization'.

If you are really concerned about the welfare of dogs, and your Dog Lovers Association has the power to do it, you'll be campaigning for dogs' rights (or better treatment for them) everywhere you can. It may annoying for a Korean looking forward to a tasty bowl of Labrador soup, to know that the World Dog Alliance is pestering the UK government to somehow intervene to keep you from peacefully enjoying your food ... but it's just a fact of life.

So of course the Russians want to see Americans elected to office who are not hostile to them, and vice versa. And of course they're going to act on this desire, as the Americans did and do with respect to them.

Just how focused these actions should be is another question. In 2004 the leftwing British newspaper, The Guardian, appalled at the idea of George W Bush being re-elected, got hold of the electoral register in Ohio, a 'swing state', with voters' names and addresses, and encouraged its liberal readers to write letters to people on the register, urging them to vote against Bush. Probably a bad idea. In any case, it didn't work, and there was some evidence it had the opposite effect to that intended.

So let the Russians appear on forums and tell us things our press hides from us. Let them advertise the existence of Russia Today, and make it more available in the US. Let them subsidize the printing of books and pamphlets and journals which argue their side of things. Study the methods of the fantastically successful Israeli lobby in the US, and do likewise.

But ... 'dirty tricks' ... attempts to foment racial discord .. outright lies . this will only backfire. If Mr Putin has anyone telling him that trying to foment a riot between Muslims and anti-Muslims in the US is a clever idea, or that starting false rumors about this or that politician will yield some sort of dividend ... I can only advise him (Mr Putin) to treat this advisor to that traditional Russian dish, a bowl of borscht flavored with element 84 (isotope 210), and listen to cooler heads. More pretty girls doing presentations on RT-TV, that's your best course. .

 

He still can't understand the nonsense of situation,when some one talks as an expert about grammar of language, that he even dont know.
And yes "you are an idiot" is the universal "argument" of all victims of the russian propaganda mashine. Its because they are so smart.

I don't know much about him, same as you. I can't understand, why you mention him so often? It's because in Russian television sad, that he was a very bad man?

Yes yes, all around Russia are nazi states, slave nations and non human anti russian pigs, who eats little russian children. And after this all someone asks, where does Russophobia came from? Look at this inadequate russian shovinist...
And yes, i know what nazi state is, because i love hisory an read lot of books.

 

The symbols are not guilty for those who use them. The white-blue-red banner was used by Kolchak and RONA, but not only. If the Russian state had the meaning of the symbol as a continuation of RONA ideology it would be a fascist symbol. But it is not so. Russian Federation picked this symbol from the history of Russian trade ships, used long before WWII and revolution.
If we take 'swastika' - it was not invented by Hitler or nazists. The idea of rotating cross is an ancient symbol of the year (four seasons changing each other in the direction of the Sun). We still have these symbols (plenty of them) in museums and orthodox icons. But they are all referring to the idea of the Sun, year and cropping etc. If Ukrainian combatants picked this symbol from our history telling that they want to build a strong country for the peasants who will crop Ukrainian land... or something of that kind - it would be no problem. BUT. These groups are taking not only the symbol of swastika, but also an ideology. They divide nations to high and low considering themselves to be Europeans and different from Asiatic Russians. They also copy the methods of hitlerist fascists for street fighters and working with youths. If we take the slogan 'who is not jumping is a muscovite' - it is also a translation of fascist method to control the crowd. Hitler could make a good show with 'marches with torches' (also copied by Ukrainian neo-fascists), crowd performing simultaneous shouts (used to be 'Heil Hitler!' - 'Glory to Hitler!', Ukrainian neo-fascists use 'Glory to Ukraine!' or 'Glory ro heroes!' shouts). The problem is not a symbol. The problem is ideology. It forces the nation to the policy of ethnic cleansings (which never happen at once! Even under Hitler it took years for destruction of jews and other nations would have been terminated in decades after jews if Hitler won), wars with neighbours, defeat and destruction of the state. I doubt that Ukrainian state will find the power to resurrect and to remain necessity of the world in it like the germans did.

Tell your attitude to these guys. Do you think them to be heroes or villains or just normal people... Your attitude is a problem. I see two fascists who are proud of their ideology and find themselves better than the nations they are ordered to regard as low. In a normal state these guys need to be punished. and their organization need to be destroyed. But it doesn't happen in Ukraine. More and more people are driven to fall under a corrupt and destructive ideology.

 

I've never heard that Stepan Bandera was Jewish. What's the source?

 

It's usually the russian posters claiming he's Jewish/ukranian patriot/nazi sympathizer, etc, they should look at their own Jews in Stalin's govt?
It's a case of "take our word for it, he's Jewish!"

 

Where did you get that the ukrainian combatants divide nations to high and low? Which combatants? Do you have any facts approving these words, or again it is yust another bullshit, wich you got from the television?

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Which methods?

Where did you get that?

This is the march with torches of soviet pioneers and komsomol. They copied nazis too, as i understand?

What is wrong with these slogans?

Your problem is lack of logical thinking and simple knowledge about the question. Because in Ukraine is a multiparty system, democratically elected government, change of power, free mass media and so on. This all are strait opposite to the totalitarian systems, wich was in fascist Italy, nazi Gemany and USSR. If fact now days Russia, with its autoritarian system, is mach more closer to fascism, than Ukraina ever was. But as for you state fascism is a touches and a pictures if some idiots in the internet, you dont even realize that.

 

Which "their" organization need to be destroyed? What punishment should be after someone posting picture with nazi flag in the internet? And you are sure, that all that kind of criminals in your country is punished, or you dont give a deam about Russia?