Rusty Bowers, Witness on a Central Charge of Trump Indictment, Speaks Out

I see it all the time. Some dude in his long bed, crew cab diesel pick up with black smoke coming out his tail pipe (because it's so cool ... ) a dirty blue line and confederate flag dragging the ground off his tail gate covered in bumper stickers one of which is a "love it or leave it" sticker.

 

Im so sure that is so true

 

Very true.

 

Im sure

 

Obviously you can't name any.

 

The evidence is in the video just watch it

 

Read the indictment if you're that interested which clearly you are not

 

It isnt

 

No, it speaks to the failure of the Left wing media to brainwash 1/2 the population.

 

Indeed. He is banking on winning the election and then using his powers to get rid of all his legal problems. Psychopathy at it's most extreme.

 

the exception being his folowers who still beleive he won that election and all the lies that have come from T since then.

 

At this point, I'll take it if he gets a decent VP. They can put him in prison after he's elected, his VP will be POTUS, and instantly, no more old guys.

 

Come on now, let's not turn this forum into a dating site!


Joke, btw...........

 

Could it be that SV audit (assuming you're talking about 'Signature Verification') are unreliable, as the signature from many people vary greatly?
You see, I could sign something a few minutes apart, and my signature may vary depending on many factors, including how fast I wrote it.
So, maybe they could foresee that Republicans, having a desired outcome in mind ahead of time, could use those variances to discount valid votes.
Just a thought................
No, it isn't lonely! lol

 

I'm interested in the person to whom I responded back their claim about Arizona and he answers with Georgia.

But do tell me what crimes he said he witnesses first hand Trump commit

 

And why we should not have mail in voting. Why the Trump campaign was complaining about results where state officials were lowering the matching standards EVEN more because they were getting so many rejected ballots which just opens the door wide open for voter fraud.

 

Just read the Smith indictment:

( 1) conspiracy to defraud
the United States by overturning the election results, in
violation of 18 U.S.C. § 371;

( ) conspiracy to obstruct an
official proceeding i.e., the Congress's certification of the
in violation of 18 U.S.C. 1512

( ) )
obstruction of and attempt to obstruct, the certification ofthe
electoral vote, inviolation of 18 U.S.C. §§ 1512(c)(2) , 2

and
(4) conspiracy against the rights of one or more persons to vote
and to have their votes counted , inviolation of 18 U.S.C. 241.

 

All that was due to the pandemic, adjusting the rules to accommodate voters who were afraid of going to the polling locations due to covid, which is no longer a big problem, so your concern there onward is moot. It seems the root of all the right's complaint was that more people would vote, and they fear that since historically it reveals that the more people vote, the more Republicans lose, and if the facts were reversed, they would be singing a different tune.

Opening the door to fraud, a theoretical exercise, is not the same thing as fraud actually being committed, which, of course, has never been proven remotely to any extent sufficient to prove a different outcome.

And also explain why it is that we've had mail in voting since the civil war, with nary a complaint by Republicans (not anywhere near as much as currently) but it's only begun since Trump lost? Hmmm?

 

I sort of agree. We should have internet voting.

 

Which is even worse

DHS memo: ‘Significant’ security risks presented by online voting
The advisory is perhaps the federal government’s sternest official warning yet against online voting.

he Department of Homeland Security has told election officials and voting vendors that internet-connected voting is risky to the point that ballots returned online “could be manipulated at scale” by a malicious attacker.

The advisory that DHS’s Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency sent states on Friday is perhaps the federal government’s sternest warning yet against online voting. It comes as officials weigh their options for conducting elections during a pandemic and as digital voting vendors see an opportunity to hawk their products.

While the risk of election officials delivering ballots to voters via the internet can be managed, the return of those ballots by voters “faces significant security risks to the confidentiality, integrity, and availability of voted ballots,” CISA said in the guidance, which CyberScoop reviewed. “These risks can ultimately affect the tabulation and results and, can occur at scale.”

The guidance, which is marked “For Official Use Only” and is not public, cites a theoretical “man-in-the-middle” attack, in which a hacker intercepts and alters data, as one risk to voters who return ballots electronically. Other federal agencies involved in election security — the Election Assistance Commission, the FBI, and the National Institute of Standards and Technology — signed off on the document.....

https://cyberscoop.com/dhs-cisa-online-voting-risks/

 

Sorry COVID did not give election officials or judges the authority to change election law. And we certainly do not need such measures now since we didn't then. Spare me your specious comparisons of strict absentee ballot voting and mass mail in voting by proxy.

 

The person was talking about ARIZONA and you nor he have yet to state what this guy PERSONALLY WITNESSED and has first hand knowledge.

 

Tell me what THIS person claims to have personally witnessed and has first hand knowledge that makes you assert his importance here. So far you haven't been able to. The Trump campaign believe rightly or wrongly there were enough fraudulent votes to change the outcome and wanted FRAUDULENT votes removed from the tabulations.

 

I started a thread on the same video, where I do, indeed, state what was said by Bowers which was first hand knowledge of a crime

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/evidence-of-a-crime-committed-by-trump.616465/

In the Smith indictment, it explains that President violated a federal statute when
he called Rusty Bowers, then speaker of the AZ house, to replace Biden's electors
with Trump electors, not to mention that Trump's allegations of fraud, he (via Giuliani) was unable to provide evidence of the claim.

This, from the indictment, is derived from Bowers's testimony given in the video.

Watch the video for the statute referenced.

 

As always, it's wrong, always wrong given the fact that the ONLY reason he's raising a stink about it is that it comports to his narrative, declared at every rally long before the first ballot was ever cast, that 'the only way Democrats can win the election is if they rig it". So, in essence, he's trying to force a self-fulfilling prophecy. Circularism is alive and well in the MAGAverse.

I started a thread on the same video, where I do, indeed, state what was said by Bowers which was first hand knowledge of a crime

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/evidence-of-a-crime-committed-by-trump.616465/

In the Smith indictment, it explains that President violated a federal statute when
he called Rusty Bowers, then speaker of the AZ house, to replace Biden's electors
with Trump electors, not to mention that Trump's allegations of fraud, he (via Giuliani) was unable to provide evidence of the claim.

This, from the indictment, is derived from Bowers's testimony given in the video.


Watch the video for the statute referenced.