Sarkozy tells Turkey to recognise Armenia ‘genocide’

Hi Brother
I hope everything goes well with you.If you read my post carefully I blame both government and Kemalism.İndeed ı see AKP as islamist Kemalists.Opportunists islamist Kemalists.

Genocide happened in 1915 and AKP government is only ten years old.Then it is very evident who has the biggest share on denial of AG.

Yes you are right there is no argument left on AG.It is absolutely one of the most disgusting genocides ever happened among thousands of genocides.

Turkey must accept this crime not because of bastard Sarkozy wants but because of this is the right thing to do for herself and for humankind.

 

You debunked nothing, Turkey has caused the Armenian Greek Assyrian genocides, never repayed anything or shown a bit or regret or remorse.

History will not be wiped out just for the sake of Turkish Pride.

 

Welcome back brother. I see you're still victim of all Liarmenian propaganda. Anyway you stated Kemalism still is somehow power and AKP can't do anything because of it which means you think AKP is a "victim". Also there's no such thing called "Islamist Kemalism"...

 

You stated the so-called Armenian Genocide was "Islamic supremacy against infidels". But secularists (Young Turks) came to power 1908 and it was them in power in 1915. Now either explain this Einstein, or lick what you spit and admit that you were wrong at least once instead of disappering from thread when you have no arguments left when it comes to details.

There was no "Turkey" back to years of those so-called genocides.

Yep of course it won't. It won't change for sake of random politicans either, that's why those so-called "Armenian Genocide resolutions" are such a no-sense. Since when politicans resolve historical disputes? Up to my knowledge it's historians job, not politicans.

 

Hi Dutch

Armenian Genocide is a well-known and proven fact but What the hell this Greek genocide?

and what is that asyrian genocide?

Do you call all crimes against humanity as GENOCİDE?

Please note that Genocide is an spesific crime which has some qualifications every crime such as war crimes,ethnical assimilation etc can not be called as genocide....

Can you prove them?

NO AKP is not victim it is an opportunist which uses Kemalism....


and Kemalists have always been using islam...

 

I miss Kemalism.

 

I wish they were Kemalists. But they're far from our ideology. And Kemalists never used Islam, it's Erdoğan and his fanboys who've been always using Islam as a tool... Anyone can easily say this, even some random from this forum.

 

The Kemalists are finished. Turkey is completely Islamist now.

 

1 totally, many years ago

2 Turkey is completely Islamist now. not really or yet

 

say AKP to contact me. they can recognize AG and win the next election...pure digital media power
agreed , or revaluation...

ps
nice to see you here man)

 

not from Kurdish point of view hope they never return.

AKP is a secular Islamic party i gotta say .

 

Kemalism havent finished Im afraid it wont finsih in the near future.

Kemalism is just transforming into a more moderate,more islamic/conservative,more multi-cultural form to survive.

Kemalism is struggling for future and power in order to not become an Egypt or Libya.
Im not sure if ıt will succeed or not.It is unknown at the moment.Im hopeful.
At the moment it is just pretending to change into a democracy.It still has time to change.

 

kemalism = continues denying Kurds and Kurdish issue solution , under the ( 1 nation , 1 flag ) slogan BS.

unless there is a new constitution that changes this slogan , then kemalism is not going to be a problem to solve the most important internal issue of turkey.

 

I hope we are about to find out a solution to our Kurdish Issue.

I hope a free constitution will provide Kurds their deserved rights.

Kurdish deputies are in the parliament they will also contribute new constitution for Kurdish Rights.

Im really hopeful I hope Kemalists cant prevent Turkey to have a new free constitution.

 

Get real, AKP oppresses CHP the same way it does to BDP, they arrest the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of Kemalists in name of "Ergenekon" or "Balyoz" while they arrest BDP's guys in name of KCK and (*)(*)(*)(*), not to mention government denied access of Hasip Dicle into parliement and replaced his seat with another AKP member, the same goes for "Ergenekon", two CHP members are still not able to enter it because of it. So please either decide if you think they're the best party or not, because Alan you keep complaining about them but next day you declare them angels.

 

Source: Cumhuriyet Portal in English

 

as we all know that the kamalist-junta constitution gives AKP too much power,and AKP just uses this opportunity

 

No it's not quite the constition, they just cover their actions and job done.

 

i pointed to :

 

i condemn arresting politicians no matter who it is , that been said i stand firm against kemalism as long as it slogans (1 nation , 1 flag) , this has to change and then i have no issue with kemalism .

but also its a known fact that AKP has been the best gov' towards kurds and Erdogan even visited S.kurdistan and stood under the kurdish flag no former turkish PMs dares to make such a brave move , yes the democratic opening falls short of expectations for kurds but at the same time it has been the "lesser" racist gov' towards kurds from the day turkey has been announced a state .

 

All those arrestments are done by approval of CHP.
Kemalists were in need of someone else to clean their DEEP STATE and its dirty works.AKP was a very suitable choice for this.
Cos If CHP have won the elections It would have been CHP who had to do this arrestments.

West(USA)-AKP and Kemalists are in accordance with.Cos West need Turkey and Turkey needs West.
Yes of course what your saying are correct but they are all daily political remarks......

Dont despise my claims I know ıt seems strange but unfortunately AKP is a creature of Kemalism thats why it is obedient to his master....

Have you ever seen AKP done something real for change?On Regime? On Kurdish Issue?
A hell no..They always gives some political lectures but when it comes to the edge for a real change on Kemalist Regime just turns back and begin to deny...

I have experienced this a lot of times...

What your saying and your claims are daily/political approaches and remarks which reflects thoughts of hard-core Kemalists......

 

Bak abiciğim, tamam iyi birisin, seni diğer Kemalizm düşmanı yobazlar ile bir tutmak istemiyorum ama az biraz düşün, bu forumda bir kere bile Türkiye veya Türkler için en ufak iyi bir şey bile yazmamış, bizleri karalamak için yemeyip-içmeyip zamanını bu forumda Türkiye abuk sabuk komplo teorileri yazmakla geçiren yalancılar ve Türk düşmanları neden senin neredeyse her mesajını ayakta alkışlıyor diye...

 

You know, the CHP and BDP always suggested lowering it while AKP refused it...

 

What have they contributed to Kurds so far?

 

not always, last 10 years - yes, via junta´s 10% AKP have gotten enormous-power, and i can understand them why they want to keep it. berlusconi/etc. can only dream about such a power