Saudi Arabia suspends talks on Israeli relations normalization - turns to Iran.

Saudi Arabia suspends talks on Israel relations normalization, turns to Iran (msn.com)

Seems to me like the Palestinian attack was a success. Israel showed its true colors by killing 500 children in revenge. The reckless bombing and destruction by Israel shows impotence - not power.

Gaza’s terrified children all too aware Israel’s bombs steal their joy | Gaza News | Al Jazeera

We'll see in the future if the Saudi's will continue talks in the future.

 

I laugh at anyone dumb enough to think the Saudis are turning to Iran. The two hate each other. All that actually happened is the Saudis said they couldn't sign a peace deal with the current conflict raging.

 

Still a success.

 

Nope.

 

By their fruit you will know them.

I see that Saudi Arabia was tested to see their resolve for a friendship with Israel and they failed.

I think they should be approached to see if they will instead take in Gazan refugees.

 

Yes, I agree. It's clear that the evangelical "Christians" are actually Satan-worshippers cheering on Death, destruction, kidnapping and theft. Israel is clearly evil and bad for everyone as Gaza is Israel's fruit.

Saudi Arabia was never going to be a friend to Israel. That line of thinking is so incredibly stupid. Saudi Arabia just wanted to improve its position.

So, other people have to solve Israel's problem. Israel is to evil, viscous, and pathetic to resolve it themselves. All they know how to do is to strike blindly and kill someone, anyone.

 

They can talk the talk, but if they can't walk the walk, then their words are meaningless empty words.

Who are they? The Palestinians, the 'humanitarian' groups, what have you?

Anyone who cries about poor Palestinians should put their words into action and take them in. Of course they won't because they aren't stupid. But playing word games without having to back the words up is also stupid.

 

Sound like an Evangelical "Christians" (Actually Satan-worshippers.) They talk peace, peace, peace, but bring nothing but war, death, destruction, theft, and kidnapping.

They're the one's being oppressed by the Israeli's in the occupied territories.

One could say the same about the Jews. However, the Evangelical "Christians" (Actually Satan-worshippers.) forced them onto Palestine instead of taking them in.

The words given are Justice - not charity. They want justice for the Palestinians - not charity.

People who support Israel are so evil, they care nothing about justice. Others are so stupid, they don't even know that an injustice happened.

 

Since Saudi Arabia pulled the plug on Israel, it means that the Saudi's tested Israel and pulled the plug.

The UN partition plan determined citizenship based on residence. The Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel contains the words that Arabs get full and equal citizenship and due representation. But Israel got a backlog of 100,000's of Arab refugees who are entitled to a Israeli citizenships according to the UN and according to that Israeli declaration. And subsequently the rest of the Arab world is refusing to help out Israel with their ethnic cleansing ways.

 

Sounds like a good thing, that Iran and Saudi Arabia normalize their troubles which is about religion and a weapon race. And there is no need for that, if they can just agree to let each others religion be and not pointing their weapons at each other.

The problem with Israel is the endless violent oppressing of Arabs / Muslims for the last 75 years straight with no end in sight.
Kind of hard to imagine to think a Muslim wants peace with a Jew who is has no intent at all to stop oppressing a Muslim.

 

I don't know. Two enemies that hate each other can unite against a common threat (see the soviets and Americans vs the nazis). Will the muslim countries of the middle east tolerate genocide? Must they? I had some hope that Israel was trying to do the right thing when they asked people to evacuate, but then they bombed people on the evacuation routes. They're just as bloodthirsty as Hamas, just more effective.

 

can you explain to me why you think if a terrorist puts a child in front of him then that terrorist should be immune from harm?

 

There has been a thaw in relations between Iran and Saudi Arabia, which is a good thing. The Saudis have also suspended all talks regarding normalization of relations with Israel, which is also wise and appropriate. But for a country that wants to look like a leader in the Arab world, it has been AWOL for far too long when it comes to taking any meaningful measures to help the Palestinians escape their predicament. I hope they change that posture. The same is true with a lot of other Muslim countries.

What I want to see is Iran put together a humanitarian convey at sea and land, with other Muslim countries joining, with the convoy heading towards Gaza with fuel, medicine, water, doctors and health care professionals, with sufficient military protection of the convoy provided by each of these countries. If there is any attack on the convoy or the military forces accompanying them to protect the convoy, the attacks should be considered an act of war and bring about a commensurate response.

At sea, the convoy can start from the Persian Gulf backed by naval submarines, frigates, and vessels from Iran, joined along the way by the naval forces of Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and other countries along its route through the Indian Ocean, Red Sea, towards the Suez Canal (where the Egyptians would join) to the mediterranean where Turkey should join, towards Israel. Each country's convoy would sail close to one another, with vessels carrying humanitarian supplies protected by naval assets. They could easily put together a force of a dozen or more major surface vessels, submarines, and other naval assets heading towards the waters in Gaza. If Israel tries to attack the convoy, the country attacked could take that as an act of war and act accordingly.

The same concept would apply on land. Humanitarian convoys could start their movement in Iran through Iraq, Syria, towards such routes that connect to Gaza. The convoy should have sufficient miilltary protection -- enough to make sure any attempt by Israel to interfere would be an act of war against the military forces of the country or countries whose forces are being attacked (but not such a large force that it could be credibly presented as some sort of an invasion force).

The idea should be vigorously pursued and coordinated between Muslim countries. If the US and Israel don't like to see such a convoy actually head towards Gaza, they can then reconsider their stated objectives and tactics in Gaza before its too late One thing should be clear: the horrific attacks taking place against the civilian population in Gaza must stop and the idea that Israel should (never mind could) try to destroy Hamas must be put to rest. The atrociities committed by both sides can be investigated and tried by a tribunal to be established for this purpose by the UN, although I'm sure neither Israel nor the United States would like such a thing. Which means that war crimes will perforce never be properly tried but the idea that allegations and propaganda about terrorism justifies engaging in war and war crimes against other countries without proper neutral investigation and proper international authority should be put to rest once and for all.

 

That's not true.
This is exactly the false propaganda of Hamas ISIS.

 

The false seekers of justice ask for a proportionate response & true colors.
If this is true, then according to you, Israel should kill 1350 Gazans... rape several hundred, cut off the heads of Gazan babies, 500 is way less than proportional

 

After you.

 

Reading is so difficult for Satan-worshipping evangelicals which is why they believe in the Gnostic belief of Premillennialism.

500 is the count of children.

Gaza and West Bank death toll reaches 2,383 Palestinians - ministry (msn.com)

We're up to 2,383 dead. Your proportionality has been reached and surpassed. How many more need to die for your bloodlust?

 

So Hamas invaded, killed old women and children, and went on a rape fest, and you "think" Israel is somehow to blame? Brilliant!

 

I had some hope that Israel was trying to do the right thing when they asked people to evacuate, but then they bombed people on the evacuation route. [/QUOTE]

Abject nonsense, on a good day.

 

Termination of peace agreement is "a success." Then immediately calls people "Satan-worshipers" in a highly hypocritical post.

 

At first many Arabs supported ISIS, but than they were murdered by them.
Same support to Hamas ISIS is happening now.

 

So, when the criminals of Chicago go on their weekly rape and murder-spree, you believe the Mayor of Chicago, the police, and the City Council are not in any way responsible? Brilliant!

You must be a Democrat! . . . Am I right or am I right?

Gaza is still an occupied territory of Israel. Israel decided to give Hamas control of Gaza while making sure they were blockaded and miserable. Israel then sat women, children and the elderly right next to Gaza as human shields. Israel reaped what they sowed.

 

Do you have a source for this or just Satan-worshipping memes?

It's a book by an Israeli. You might want to inform yourself. Or do you plan to add it to your book burning pile?

 

Hamas has been setting up roadblocks and taking the keys and IDs of people trying to evacuate. Israel has denied they bombed the evacuation route. Hamas has been ordering civilians to stay and doing everything in their power to keep them in the bombing zone. It's likely they bombed their own people for daring to leave against their wishes.

 

There was no peace agreement. Why would you say something so completely ignorant?

Then you lie about what was said. I called Evangelical "Christians" Satan-worshippers and I think calling them people is questionable.