Saudi Arabia suspends talks on Israeli relations normalization - turns to Iran.

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  1. notme

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    So far Israel refuses to acknowledge Palestine.
     
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    You got that from
    No. Israel has to start using rule of law and equality before the law - not vengeance and revenge.
    That's like saying "You know Venezuelans are Americans, right?" Yes, technically Venezuelans are on the American continent and could be called Americans. But that is a lie and an omission of truth. You statement is very similar - it's a lie spread by Israeli agitprop.

    Yes, Palestinians do speak a dialect of Arabic. But claiming they are Arab is like claiming every Ukrainian who can speak Russian is a Russian and that there is no Ukrainian culture and Ukrainian is just a form of the Russian language.

    It does seem like I'm arguing with Putin . . .
    The Jews are trying to ethnically cleanse Israel of all Palestinians and anyone else who is not simply a visitor or at least as many as they can get away with.

    Think about how the U.S. ethnically cleansed the Cherokee from the southeastern portion of the U.S. in the early 1800s.
     
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    Aha. Well I did by saying I support the law.
    You on the other hand got busted by refusing to see the difference between Palestine and Hamas.
    And you're not even replying that you made some kind of error. tss tss.
     
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    And allow them to become a sovereign state where they will have their own military and stockpiles of weapons? You think that would be a good idea?
     
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    The world already agreed that Palestine is a nation.
    And it's being violently oppressed by Israel and being colonized. A clear war crime.
    So yeah. They need to protect their lands for sure.

    Do note. Israel has been getting billion dollars a year in military aid and is a nuclear power... and sends it's civilians across the border to infiltrate an other country to claim it as theirs. That doesn't sound like such a nation should be worried about their victims getting some stockpile going. Such a joke, that argument. Just like "we need a buffer"... sure, sure... by living all over inside that buffer, they show they don't need one at all.
     
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    Israel has had since 1948 to cleanse Israel of all Palestinians. Yet they allow 20,000 to cross the border into Israel to work and provide for their families in Palestine. Do you think the same can be said if an Israeli wanted to work in Palestine? And why is the Hamas leadership not actually living in Palestine?
     
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    The world agreed? Why doesn’t the same world offer to take in Palestinians like Egypt who still has not opened the border for the refugees?
     
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    Satan-worshippers side with Israel - Christians do not. Christians are not able to stomach the evil of Israel when they find out about it. Unfortunately, in the U.S., most stick their head in the sand and are ignorant of this evil.
    No, Christians should not hate Jews for helping the Romans murder Jesus.
    This is a horrible misreading of Revelation - mainly taught in the U.S. and nowhere else. But it does make for a ton of B movies.
     
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    You left out all the things you claimed Israel “allowed” Hamas to get away with.
     
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    So, you believe the ethnic cleansing of the Cherokee was a good thing?
     
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    And Christian’s do not hate the Jews. Seems most everyone else does? Why?
     
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    They allowed it through their brutal authoritarian actions.
     
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    Why do you think everyone else does?
     
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    Should the US have ignored the killing of settlers moving west by Indians?
     
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    I think you mean created.
     
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    You are showing your true colors by refusing to condemn Israeli attacks upon civilians, women and children.

    But to be honest, you posting that nonsense while waving the war banner of the army of North Virginia is simply silly. You support rape, murder, enslavement, and brutal torture just for having the wrong skin color.
     
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    I have no interest in arguing semantics.
     
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    I'm listening to this right now. Much more informed and interesting take on the Saudi-Iran relationship (among others) here:

    Peter Zeihan: What’s Really Going on in Israel - Danger Close with Jack Carr
     
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    Yes, I did. I found the way the U.S. handled themselves after that was not good. It was very hard to defend the U.S. during that time.
     
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    thread winner
     
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    I condemn any and all attacks by Israel against civilians. I condemn the Gaza blockade for it is inhumane and has failed it's objective, miserably. I condemn the Israeli apartheid regime in the West Bank.

    Now, when are all the supporters of Palestine going to condemn hamas's attack upon civilians?? Never.
     
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    Abject nonsense, on a good day.[/QUOTE]
    Bombing on the evacuation route was an accident as I understand it. Do you have facts that contradict that?
     
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    There is sick arsed support for the terrorism that HAMAS did. HAMAS even outdid Putin and the Russians in committing genocide. A survivor in Bucha Ukraine sad he now considers the Russians who commit war crimes to be “insects”. That makes HAMAS a bacteria, a bad bacteria.
     
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    Actually supporters of Palestine will condemn HAMAS on the first of never.
     
  25. Bob Newhart

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    Wow! You really have no knowledge of history in this regard!

    That's some major ignorance in that post. The Cherokee did not kill settlers moving west between 1830 and 1850.

    Wow! Just Wow!
     

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