School district bans the dictionary to comply with Ron DeSantis’s book-ban law

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  1. omni

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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/s...ith Gov. Ron DeSantis ‘s (R) book-banning law.

    Have we really reached a point where we need to start banning dictionaries because they might have definitions of words that are "sexually explicit?" Growing up, dictionaries were a mainstay in any classroom and now they are potentially being banned. It's outrageous that the certain religious texts that have sexually explicit content are allowed in libraries but the dictionary isn't. This is an absolute embarrassment.
     
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    Wow are they stupid. No one banned a dictionary. Need to fire whoever making decisions in that district.
     
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    Make sure to also ban most religious books as well

    Most books in general have a sexual theme if you twist it enough

    Still waiting on a single CON to tell me what is wrong with “And Tango Makes Three”
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    Or better yet what is wrong with teaching inclusion and acceptance
     
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    LOL...under review is not 'literally banned.'

    As far as book banning goes, the words in those books are someone's thoughts and ideas, right? Now keep in mind the left, big tech and the government has censored thoughts and ideas for, remind me again, how long? And the left cheered.
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Gee, if there was only a mechanism in place to keep people in warmer climates and out of the cold.

    Need I remind the left that they droned on about school lunches possibly being the only meal a kid gets. Now that kid was starved for a day in favor of illegals.

    Lib = America and Americans last.
     
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    During remote my kids school still handed out lunches if you wanted to go get one.
    But I think you’re on the wrong thread
     
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    ??? I am guessing this is about banning the “Noddy and Big ears” books?

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    Mind you the right came on board when it found out that Noddy and Big Ears slept together

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    Well, trump relies on the poorly educated for his base, so they’re just trying to increase their numbers in hopes of winning elections.
     
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    yet, the same subject matter the right want to ban is in the Bible
     
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    Nothing but some school officials showboating because they don't like the fact that they're not allowed to push their lgbtq propaganda on little kids.
     
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    Got any evidence there is any LGBTQIA agenda?
     
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    they don't want to break DeSantis's law, are you saying they should break his law and allow the dictionary?
     
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    Did you seriously link to LGBTQ Nation? A source that is about as biased about the issues at play as one can get? Get a better source and I might take it seriously.
     
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    With the dictionaries, I suspect it's more about the definition of (biological) sex. The law in question proscribes a singular definition based on chromosomes and genitals at birth but any reasonable dictionary would likely have a range of definitions based on common usage.

    It is certainly an somewhat extreme reaction (possibly intentionally) but it's an extreme law as written and intended, and it would be perfectly possible for one of the supporters of the law to object to specific dictionaries in schools on that basis.
     
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    I'm just going to leave this here since these are the main types of books people are not wanting in our schools...

    LINK: 8 book titles removed from Forsyth County School shelve... | AccessWDUN.com

    The above is just to show that the following link has the accurate books. Its Newsweek and I know some don't like it for its conservative lean. If you don't trust the Newsweek link you're free to look up the books and verify for yourselves what's in them.

    NOTE: WHAT IS IN THE FOLLOWING LINK IS NOT SUTIBABLE FOR WORK (much less schools). OPEN AT YOUR OWN DISCRETION.

    LINK: Do These Books Belong in Public School Libraries? You Be The Judge | Opinion (newsweek.com)

    Also note the time span in between the articles. The first link is dated Feb 10 2022. The Newsweek article is dated May 26 2023 and has the end result of whether these books were actually banned after the review process. Which I'll quote here:

    The following is the rated age appropriateness for each of the books. Which is supposed to affect where it will be placed in school libraries... if at all.

    All Boys Aren’t Blue by George M. Johnson rated for 14+
    Juliet Takes a Breath by Gabby Rivera rated for 15+
    L8r, g8r by Lauren Myracle rated for 14+
    Me Earl and the Dying Girl by Jesse Andrews rated for 14+
    Nineteen Minutes by Jodi Picoult rated for...unknown. I couldn't find a rating. The closest I could find was that it was not suitable for children or young adults.
    Out of Darkness by Ashley Hope Perez rated for 16+
    The Bluest Eye by Toni Morrison rated for 14+
    The Infinite Moment of Us by Lauren Myracle rated for 13+

    Most of the above are high schoolers. With the exception of one as you can see. One other for what could only be deemed as only appropriate for adults. 18+. Most people are in 12th grade when they're 18, or at least by the end of 12th grade.

    Now, I don't know about most of you. But I for one was a bookworm. I'd sit in the library every chance I got and read a book there, quite often not even checking it out. Which means I could (and often did) read any book in there, age appropriate or not. Of course, when I went to school we didn't have to worry about books like the above.

    I for one don't want these types of sexually explicit books in schools. What's said in these books are generally...or were generally, reserved for porn mags that were either behind cashier counters where only adults could legally buy them, or stores that were designed to be sexually explicit and you had to be 18+ to enter.

    And yeah, I get it, kids can go to porn sites and access such stuff now a days quite easily. That doesn't excuse it being in schools. Not all parents are lazy ****s and/or tech illiterate.
     
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    And books like these being removed are — generally — not the issue. And almost no one would take issue with them being limited to the age range they were written for. For age 18+ they shouldn’t be in the school.

    It’s banning books because a same sex couple is in it or similar that is the issue.

    Which is why I brought up a very specific book.
    And is why you ignored it

    These laws were written to be as vague as possible for one reason and one reason alone
     
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    It would appear that dishonesty is the only way to sell this political product. The dictionary was not "banned" and the bill in question does not ban "saying gay".

    It is more than reasonable to object to adding homosexuality, bisexuality, etc to the curriculum. Teachers are having a hard enough time getting students to read at grade level.
     
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    Hmmm. It appears it is Republicans in 15 states that have refused fed dollars to feed kids.
    https://www.commondreams.org/news/gop-states-summer-ebt
     
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    You want to know why such a book may get banned? Because it is not up to teachers to teach such concepts to K-3rd graders. The excuse used is that they use it to teach tolerance of those "different from you". Except you don't need examples of homosexuality to teach such kids to be polite to them. Know how I know that? Because I was raised during the color blind era of teaching. And not once did anyone have to point towards a person of color when teaching me to not be rude or mean towards another person.

    And yes. BAN THE BIBLE FROM OUR SCHOOLS TO! Your use of the bible is worthless against me and a great majority of people. The Bible is not being taught in any public school. You MIGHT find it in a school library. But you won't find it taught in a single class at any age. You will that book. Along with the books that I presented. And all but one of those books were allowed to stay on the shelves. Not only that, but the Biden Admin was suing the school district for even attempting to evaluate them because it "created a hostile environment" and "violated the kid's Civil Rights". So saying they're "generally not the issue" is to ignore the facts that it is an issue with those that want these concepts taught.
     
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    So now you have moved from you just want to ban explicit content to now you want to ban any concept you don’t agree with. You would be fine with a male / female penguin so there is obviously bias there. Do everyone a favor and stop acting like it’s the porn you are protesting — it’s a cheap cop out.

    You are simply wrong

    https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/how-texas-public-schools-teach-the-bible/
    https://theweek.com/texas/1022871/t...10-commandments-in-k-12-classrooms-bible-time
     
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    Im sure you worded this to make Reps look bad, but all states provide food assistance to the poor. When it comes to food banks and shelters, they are usually run by evangelicals.
     
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    It's banned until further notice. Why does the dictionary need to get reviewed? I have never seen anything in it that warrants a review.
     
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    God, I hope you are wrong!

    As to the OP headline, if 100% accurate, is insane...
     
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    A male / female penguin book wouldn't put the focus on sexual proclivities. Also homosexuality isn't a concept. Its a fact of life as demonstrated in over 1500 different species through out the world. Not just penguins. I also have no problem with the book itself. Its the age group that its targeting that I have a problem with. Since the book isn't explicit I would have no problem with it being in middle school when most sex ed classes start. NOT K-3.

    Stop trying to assume what I think about the subject as you obviously have no idea what it is I think on it.

    In one link it talks about the how the Bible has had an influence on history and literature. With some schools straying possibly straying beyond the Constitutionality aspect. The examples it gives may be problematic, but they are not teaching the Bible in and of itself. You are confusing two distinct types of education. One is about teaching the influence the Bible has had on culture and literature. The other is about teaching the concepts of and what is in the Bible itself. Teaching about the Bible, and teaching what is in the Bible from a theocratic way (which is what is meant when someone says "taught the bible) are two completely different subjects. Don't conflate the two as they are not the same. You don't even need a copy of the bible for one, while you most certainly do for the other. Also what you seem to ignore is that the study was done by a religious group seeking to make sure that anything taught about the bible in public schools stayed being taught in a secular way.

    Your other link talks about a bill which was never enacted. LINK: A bill that would have required Texas public schools to display the Ten Commandments has failed | CNN

    So, no proof that the Bible is being taught in public schools.
     
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