Schools to teach kids there's no such thing as boys or girls.

Strawman arguments that have nothing to do with anything I've argued.

These people are a part of society, so your argument is meaningless.

 

Yes, they are. There are also people who are 'atypical' boys, 'atypical girls', and those for whom the facts of their biological sex does not conform to the male/female binary.

No amount of PC garbage that tries to deny or minimize their existence will change the fact or nature of their existence.

 

They are what is called an anomaly, or freak of nature. It's outside the norm and deviates from what nature is all about. Reproduction.

 

And the people who have to accept the burden of reworking their lives and to accommodate your select few, are those burdened people also part of society?

 

Nature is all about reproduction? Reductive.

As for demeaning people by calling them 'freaks', I suppose that speaks for itself.

 

If you're going to assert burden, then you're going to have to give me some specifics. I don't have any interest in arguing vague abstract notions. If you think being a part of society means being free from any burden to accommodate other members of that society, then you have a strange notion of what a society actually is.

 

Yeah, nobody's really surprised that you can't grasp this.

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Nature isn't about anything. Reproduction should not be confused for some kind of purpose or meaning. Life reproduces only because life that does not reproduce goes extinct. There is no purpose there, just cause and effect.

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Are you trying to blame other people for the fact that you have difficulty thinking outside of your nature and simplistic worldview?

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Have you ever noticed that conservatives see nothing wrong with avoiding being a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) to people based on race or physical handicap, but as soon as you extend the same decency to LGBT people, you're trying to oppress free speech with political correctness?

 

I'm not pretending it fits, it does fit. I'll be very literal. I could declare I'm a transgender tommorrow, and dress up as a female and say I'm a woman. Am I, in fact a woman? Hell no. I could *think* I'm a woman, I could *act* like a woman but I will never, ever biologically be a woman. I could have a sex change operation and STILL not be a woman.

I could be biologically wired to think like a woman, see things like a woman and I'm still not a woman. I'm a man. That's the body I was born with, I have to live with it. I'm not going to delude myself into thinking I'm something I'm not. I'm especially not going to feed a 7 year old's delusion of such. Nothing could retard this child's growth more than wearing some dress, thinking he is a "
she" only to grow up stunted and unable to identify with his male identity, or function in society as a "transgender".

And if I had such a child, I absolutely would seek out treatment for finding ways to include him in normal society as much as possible. Me feeding his psychological delusions is NOT being a father. It's being less than that. As that child's father, it's my obligation and responsiiblity to put him on the right path. Not cater to his delusions and put him in a dress.

 

You have no idea what a strawman is.

People who use analogies are not creating a strawman. As long as the premise of the analogy fits the original point, it's not a strawman. You and rahl would do well to learn that.

 

Read the thread, get up to speed on the topic under discussion, then you can respond intelligently.

 

Are we definining the word 'woman' in terms of biological sex or gender identity? I assume you would choose the former, while I consider the latter to be valid. The things you mention won't make that person a typical, biological female. I doubt any transgender person thinks otherwise.

What I see here is a desire on your part to deny the existence of gender identity as distinct from biological sex. It's clear to me that your denial doesn't mean squat. Some people will continue to have a gender identity that doesn't comport with their biological sex. I consider that an undeniable, plain fact. That you seek to minimize that with your ranting above doesn't change any of these facts. And it certainly doesn't do anything to elevate your opinion, in my view. Quite the opposite.

Wow. Rather amazing that you think you can speak with any credibility on what you would or wouldn't do if you were in a position that you are not, and one which you clearly do not understand, nor seemingly have any desire to try to understand.

You're certainly at liberty to apply your personal bias to your own personal parenting situation. But what I read here sounds more like a rant, passing judgment on other parents who aren't conforming to your opinion on the matter.

 

Nice copout you have there.

 

???? Its a mental disorder. A disorder of the mind, not biology. So of course its distinct from biology

 

Your comment was inconsistent to the conversation. Make a comment relative to the conversation if you want a reply.

 

I was responding to other people's comments. Let's not pretend that you don't know how the quote function works.

 

One of those comments you responded to was mine.

 

I was responding to multiple comments. My replies were below the quoted comments. It's pretty straightforward.

 

Yes, I'm passing judgment on them. They're unfit as parents. Either they goaded this on for publicity reasons, or when the psychatrist said "we have a problem" they went "Well, okay, let's slip a dress on him." That's preposterous. When my family learned I had CP, they helped me to walk, get dress, etc. They attended rehab with me and made sure my childhood was as good as could be. Either way, the kid is having a major disservice to him and I wouldn't be surprised if he's shocked by age 13 or so when his hormones go "WTF, this isn't right"

By then, he'll have no idea what to do, probably too brought into it at this point to change and his life's mediocre at best.

 

Hateful. Having a transgender family member, I can tell you that you don't know crap about it, or what that person and their family go through. This judgmental manure your spouting is very enlightening as to the kind of person you really are, and that's someone I don't want to waste another ounce of my time on.

 

SOLUTION:

Parents can order the manufacturing of T-shirts with the logo "I'm a boy", "I'm a young man" for boys, and "I'm a girl", "I'm a young woman" for girls in school.

Schools have no authority to impede the use of these "Gender ID T-shirts".

Even more, stickers to be located in books and copybooks can be made and can't be prohibited by the school.

There is no evidence that "transgender" is a condition made by nature but that is solely a dumb belief.

With these T-shirts and stickers the children will go to school knowing their gender identification over the teachings imposed by a group of sexual perverts who can't rest until they continue causing social chaos.

To think that there is no gender is not only irrational but is the most stupid idea ever invented by lunatics.

Ten million dollars to the first one who can prove scientifically that there is no gender in humans.

Lol.

 

That word, 'hate' it doesn't mean what you think it means. Me criticizing the kid's parents for not putting his best interests at heart isn't being hateful, it's being critical. That's where the word "criticize" is derived through. Me disapproving of a "lifestyle" isn't being hateful, it's called being opinionated. I don't mind necessarily if you want to dress up and pretend.

But don't try to create some curiculuum off it and pretend it's something it's not. There's no "gender theory", gender is NOT sexual orientation. You don't get to choose your genetic makeup. If I got to choose, I wouldn't be born with CP. Hell, I'd get rid of my asthma while I'm at it. But unfortunately, I didn't get a choice so I'm making the best of the choices I do have.

One of them is to be comfortable in my own skin, or pretend to be someone I'm not. For the kid's own good, he needs to be able to come to grips that he's a male and find his male identity. Hopefully, things turn out in the best possible way for the kid.

 

Well, heres a curve ball.....I wonder if skyrocketing enrolments, causing a $100 million black hole, could suddenly drop if parents take their kids out of Fairfax because of this controversial curriculum...problem solved...

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2015/0...t-predicts-100m-shortfall-in-2017-110426.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcYpESn8Ako

 

That's okay, it's no more far fetched than when other schools teach that the entire universe was created by a man in the sky who wants to give you eternal life if you'll just follow his rules for a bit.

 

Nothing. The ignorance comes from refusing to acknowledge the defined differences between the words "sex" and "gender".

 

You're evidently ignorant of female anatomy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clitoral_erection