Using the term Evolution outside the thread intent is distracting to say the least. You pose no scientific case against evolution, and instead derail the entire idea by using the base term vs. the biological. Everything evolves in time, my thoughts, politics, concepts.....but this has nothing to do with the topic.
Thank you for again being a member to post out the FACT that there does not exist any SCIENTIFIC CASE AGAINST EVOLUTION....and this thread is a JOKE. AboveAlpha
This experiment had nothing to do with chemical reaction per se...it involved energy added to base compounds to form new ones...including amino acids. Your contributions involves simple chemical reactions and claimed them to be examples of evolution in the context of this thread, and thus were ineffectual. Even Miller-Urey is inconsistent with a discussion on Evolution, as it deals with Abiogenesis, which Evolution does not.
com·mu·ta·tion ˌkämyəˈtāSHən/Submit noun 1. action or the process of commuting a judicial sentence. 2. the process of commutating an electric current. Although a Chemical Reaction can be initiated by either Electrical Charge or Solar or Cosmic or Elemental Radiation....the word Commutation when used within the words paired as Chemical Commutation would detail the act of a spontaneous Chemical Reaction caused by at least two Elements that are either sharing or emitting excess Electrons due to Electron Field overload....IS VERY RARE....as most Chemical Reactions occur due to the addition of an Electrical Current or Solar, Elemental or Cosmic Radiated Quantum Particle/Wave Forms. AboveAlpha
Alchemy. You should have just said that in the first place, and we'd not have spent any time trying to figure out what you are trying to say. Spare us, ok? No more.
I can't believe he just used the word ALCHEMY. Alchemy....which is a FANTASY FIELD OF WORK....was specific to Kings or Emperors paying their most learned by experience Men who had EXTREMELY LIMITED KNOWLEDGE specific to Geology, Metallurgy and ZERO KNOWLEDGE concerning the understanding of how Elements are Formed.....in an effort to convert Lead into GOLD....which is impossible UNLESS one has an understanding and knowledge of a UNIFIED FIELD THEORY which would allow the conversion of Matter into just pure Energy....as Matter is both Atomic Particles of Mass....Hadrons...ie....Protons and Neutrons....as well Matter also consists of Energy....Quantum Particle/Wave Forms of Energy....ie....specifically Electrons.....as well the UFT understanding would also allow this Pure Energy to be converted into Matter.....thus Quantum Particle/Wave Forms being directed into specific combinations and quantities....ie....Quarks...and all types of Quarks such as UP, DOWN, STRANGE, CHARMED...etc, Gluons, Leptons, Mesons, Higgs-Bosons....etc....to form Hadrons...ie....Protons and Neutrons....as well to form specific NUMBERS of Hadrons in each specific Atomic Nucleus.....thus with the development of the UFT....and in consort with Quantum Computation Systems.......we could take a specific amount of LEAD.....convert or breakdown all existing Hadrons within the Element Leads Atomic Nucleus into Quantum Particle/Wave Forms...ie...PURE ENERGY....then convert this Pure Energy back into Matter.....except with Quantum Computation arrange the Quanta into a specific number of Hadrons...ie....Protons and Neutrons in every reforming Atomic Nucleus as well as reform the Quanta existing as Electrons to exist in the number of Electrons in their specific Electron Orbital Fields the same as exists surrounding a GOLD Atomic Nucleus which means unlike LEAD....since GOLD has LESS HADRONS....79 Protons thus 79 Electrons and 118 Neutrons is the specific number of Neutrons listed on the Periodic Table as GOLD as stable as it is....has a RELATIVE ATOMIC MASS OF 197 total Hadrons.....and LEAD has 82 Protons thus 82 Electrons and has listed 125 Neutrons thus a RELATIVE ATOMIC MASS OF 207 total Hadrons.....this means that if you had developed and understood the UFT and had Quantum Computation you could make more Gold Atoms from an equal number of Lead Atoms...as long as we are not talking about just 1 or 2 of each. Now this ability which was the actual GOAL of Alchemy....is not currently possible given our existing Technology and Understanding but it is PHYSICALLY AND MATHEMATICALLY POSSIBLE. Even Stellar Fusion which can create all elements up to and including Iron but any element heavier than Iron needs....a bit more KICK. The element Iron and all Elements heavier...ie....containing 26 Protons and a relative mass of 56 are indeed the endpoint of exothermic stellar fusion. Once you have a core that is entirely iron, no net energy can be extracted from nuclear reactions between those iron nuclei: such reactions are endothermic. This means that in order to produce anything past iron, you need some kind of energy source other than those nuclear reactions. So with a possible few not as yet proven theoretical possibilities which are EXTREMELY LIMITED in their scope and would only change by about 3 to 5 Neutrons in addition.....ALL HEAVIER ELEMENTS THAN IRON EXIST DUE TO SUPERNOVA. So.....unless you are going to be showing me proof that someone was able to blow up a star to change Iron into Gold....or the even IMPOSSIBLE TASK of changing a heavier element than Gold....LEAD....into Gold....as in Supernovas.....Lead does not turn into GOLD.....please don't even USE the word ALCHEMY....as it does not exist as a possibility. UNLESS.....we do develop, understand and are able to control and calculate the Unified Field Theory thus we would be able to convert LEAD into PURE ENERGY then arrange these Quantum Particle/Wave Forms of energy into the specific existing Hadrons and Electron Orbital Fields existing in an Atom of GOLD.....and then you could call that ALCHEMY. AboveAlpha....p.s....knowing way too much for my own good.
That is a similar analogy to what a previous poster was claiming; "anarcho-capital" transactions do not need to be successful every time to induce change, but, usually one successful transaction is required.
Recent advances and calculations show that little or no matter composed of elements heavier than iron actually can form in supernovae. The temperatures, pressures, and densities just aren't sufficient. So now the thinking is that these heavy elements are formed in collisions between neutron stars, where the pressures and densities and temperatures ARE sufficient.
Please don't dominate the rap, Jack If you've got nothing new to say. --New Speedway Boogie, Grateful Dead
Yes...I am aware of this Theory....but here is the thing....the possible number of existing Neutron Stars that could of existed even if we were to TRIPLE this calculation would not be enough Neutron Stars to create the necessary amount of Elemental Matter above Iron. However in the early stages of Universal Expansion extremely short lived Blue Supergiant Stars were in close proximity to other Supergiants causing multiple cascade Supernova reactions due to the enormous amount of stellar material being stripped away by close in proximity Binary Blue Supergiant Stars.....and as most of these Blue Supergiants were on the scale of anywhere between 1 Million to Several Billion Solar Masses which this amount of mass in a star could not exist now at our current level of Universal Space-Time expansion as if they did they would collapse into Black Holes as this amount of mass in any one spot today will rip through the fabric of Space-Time Geometry. But back then....it was possible and I am quite sure this was the creator of almost all Heavy Elements. AboveAlpha
Jerry Man!!! Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil. Jerry Garcia I am STILL working on this. It struck a chord with me because what I have done and do....in my very specific...JOBS. AboveAlpha
Sounds reasonable. They aren't making much of that heavy stuff anymore, and there seems to be enough of it around that it must have been cranked out in some quantity at some point.
