Scoop: Trump's plan to declare premature victory

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    prove it
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, to respond to any of Trumps lawsuits.

    Bidens lawyers haven't done much of anything except watch at this point. Trump on the other hand is ACTIVLY seeking to throw out absentee ballots, to stop them from being accepted in most states, and we know that after they are counted if they are not in Trump favor he will seek to have them invalidated.
     
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    the only one who could possibly be premature is Biden
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    If you're talking about the Wisconsin terrorist, he brought a gun to a peaceful protest to do what terrorists do: create terror. And then he carried out his terrorist threat by killing two and wounding another.
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well that depends on who "wins". If Trump has the votes in the beginning he will claim it a legitimate victory and will "accept the results".

    If Biden wins, Trump will take every lawsuit to the SC. He will in no way go "quietly into that goodnight".
     
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    If Pennsylvania flips to Trump, I 100% guarantee Biden's lawyers will be issuing lawsuits.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I won't ascribe this to ignorance, as it could be just a lack of understanding of the English language. You are a criminal when you commit an act. You are a proven criminal, when it has been proven that you committed that act. You are a convicted criminal when a Court finds you guilty. Trump is a proven criminal.

    Oh... the "not indicted" part I cannot ascribe to lack of understanding of English. That can only be ignorance of the fact that current DoJ regulations dictate that a sitting President cannot be indicted while in office.

    That's a large number of things you got wrong for just a bit over one line.
     
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    Some fly-by-night organization called Fox News

    SNIP
    These demographic facts have led the GOP and its supporters to spend $20 million on 300 court cases to oppose state and local laws that make it easier to vote, according to the Center for Public Integrity.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/voter-suppression-republicans-trump-juan-williams

    - Texas Ballot Boxes
    - Florida Felons
    - Georgia Polling places
    - Pennsylvania Emergency Measures
    - National Mail slowdowns

    Notice they don't try that **** where they don't control parts or all of the state government...

    Show me ONE D effort to suppress a single vote.... Just one...
     
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    Bearack Well-Known Member

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    Hah... Snicker.... Apparently you have no idea who Juan Williams is, do you?

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    Depends on the circumstance. They may, but thats based on what happens, and how it happens.

    We literally have the Trump camp out there right now trying to invalidate votes already cast, and trying to stop ones from being counted.
     
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    Per his Wiki page, he's "Juan Antonio Williams is a Panamanian-American journalist and political analyst for Fox News Channel."
     
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    Ahh... good one.....that reminds me of an additional failed suppression effort, to add to post #208

    - Texas Drive in Votes

    EDIT - Actually, now it failed twice...

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-rejects-gop-effort-throw-203516056.html
     
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    Can you cite the specific criminal code you allege Trump has violated?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    he has violated Federal election laws and NY tax fraud laws

    and he is guilty of trade crimes
     
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    Your post clearly illustrates the difference between a liberal (you) and a conservative (me). To me a person defending himself after being chased down the street by multiple left wing demonstrators (one armed with a gun) and attacked is self defense. To you (if I understand your post correctly) what I call self defense is terrorism.
     
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    Care to cite the specific code you allege he has violated?
     
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    It was written last year, but PA's law was actually more stringent prior to that (snipping for readability):

    "Prior to the 2020 election cycle, Pennsylvania permitted only a subset of voters to vote absentee and to submit their ballots by mail. ... The law then in force imposed a received-by deadline requiring completed absentee ballots to be received in the office of the county board of elections by 5:00 p.m. on the Friday before the primary or election day in order to count. ...
    That all changed in 2019, when the General Assembly enacted and the Governor signed Act 77, one of the most significant pieces of Pennsylvania legislation in decades. ... Act 77 embodied a grand bipartisan compromise: the Pennsylvania House of Representatives passed Act 77 on a bipartisan majority vote, 138–61, and the Pennsylvania Senate passed Act 77 on a bipartisan majority vote, 35–14. ... While representatives of both parties found much to object to in Act 77, they also recognized the bill as a valuable step forward that offered necessary concessions to all sides. ... Act 77 effected a sweeping overhaul of the Pennsylvania Election Code. Among other things, it introduced no-excuse mail-in voting to the Commonwealth. As amended by Act 77, the Pennsylvania Election Code permits all Pennsylvania voters to vote absentee as “[q]ualified absentee electors,” ... or by mail as “[q]ualified mail-in electors,” ... Voters can begin applying for absentee or mail-in ballots 50 days before Election Day. ... This statutory 50-day period is the longest such period in the country. ... Act 77 supplies a comprehensive regime for absentee and mail-in voting and, as relevant here, sets two deadlines that both accommodate voters and guarantee orderly election administration. ... The first of those deadlines requires voters who wish to apply for an absentee or mail-in ballot to submit their applications to the county board of elections no later than “five o’clock P.M.” on the Tuesday before the primary or election day. ... The second, the Election Day received-by deadline, requires that absentee and mail-in ballots “must be received in the office of the county board of elections no later than eight o’clock P.M. on the day of the primary or election.” ... Act 77 thus extended the received-by deadline for absentee ballots by four days compared to pre-Act 77 law and established a matching received-by deadline for mail-in ballots."

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/Docket... Pennsylvania v. Boockvar - Cert Petition.pdf
     
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    yes, hold on.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Corrupt_Practices_Act

    He helped build a hotel in Azerbaijan with a very corrupt transportation minister who builds all sorts of insanely unneccessarily expensive projects in cahoots with the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.

    He has a $12,000 a year salary but is a billionaire.

    Trump and his family were deeply involved in the design and development of this project, and that means they violated the The Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, which makes it illegal for American companies from participating in a scheme to reward a foreign government official in exchange for material benefit or preferential treatment. The law even made it a crime for an American company to unknowingly benefit from a partner’s corruption if it could have discovered illicit activity but avoided doing so.

    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/13/donald-trumps-worst-deal
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Trump and his followers have both demonstrated an alarming tendency to conflate Trump's opinion with the color of law in several areas. Hell, they frequently seem to think statements by the Man of Bronze can alter reality itself. Why should this be any different?
     
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    The evidence you claim for the alleged extortion by Trump is what exactly?

    So I gather Joe Biden can be indicted for extorting the Ukraine to fire a prosecutor investigation Hunter Biden? The evidence being his bragging about it to the Council for Foreign Relations.
     
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    What the hell was he doing there in the first place? He didn't even live in Wisconsin. He was there to cause terror. Therefore, he is a terrorist.
     
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    To me he was exercising his Constitutional right to Freedom of Assembly and the Right to Keep and Bear Arms. To you this is terrorism.

    IMHO the liberals burning and trashing businesses during this incident were the terrorists. But like I pointed out. This case clearly demonstrates the difference between a liberal and a conservative.

    When you say he didn't live in Wisconsin I have to point out in the US we can go where we want within our own country unlike the Communist countries the left admires.
     
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    Ahhh cool so if antifa goes into another state to riot and burn then they are terrorist. Thank God I finally find something to agree with you on.
     

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