Scoop: Trump's plan to declare premature victory

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  1. Golem

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    President Trump has told confidants he'll declare victory on Tuesday night if it looks like he's "ahead," according to three sources familiar with his private comments. That's even if the Electoral College outcome still hinges on large numbers of uncounted votes in key states like Pennsylvania.
    https://www.axios.com/trump-claim-election-victory-ballots-97eb12b9-5e35-402f-9ea3-0ccfb47f613f.html

    Just in case anybody wondered why Trump insisted that the results of the elections should be called on election day, here is the likely answer. Even though in most states the majority of ballots will not have been counted, he will just declare victory.

    I'm convinced that this, or a variation of this is likely. This guy is capable of declaring himself the winner even if he's behind. I'm sure his people have come up with some excuse to do that.

    I fear that the only scenario in which he would not do this is if Biden had an overwhelming majority on election day. But, even then, he'll find some way to wreak havoc with the election process, I'm sure.

    So nobody should be surprised.
     
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    BFD.
    What does declare victory even mean?
     
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    Even if true, how about backing up and telling us why it would matter? You do know that neither the president nor the contender actually determine who will be president? There is an actual system that engages and then makes that determination, and so anyone can prematurely declare anything in regards to the presidency, and it just doesn't matter.
     
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    Because it would incite crazies like the ones who were seeking to kidnap the Governor of Michigan, or those who went out with guns to BLM protests and shot protesters... to do... who knows what.

    And it would serve to de-legitimize a legitimate President.
     
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    You mean incite hate-filled leftist radicals to riot, loot, burn, mug, and murder some more. Do you think the Dem Party would even mind? They haven't seemed to care so far.
     
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    Are you saying we need to have more asylums for the crazies before we incite them? Surely you're not suggesting we should bend over backward to please the crazies... After all we agree, they are crazies, not us? :D
     
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    Unfortunately for pathetic republican POS trump, PA has an outstanding Dem AG...

    FACT CHECK: Our elections are over when all the votes are counted.

    But if your lawyers want to try us, we’d be happy to defeat you in court one more time. :thumbsup: :flagus:

    https://twitter.com/JoshShapiroPA/status/1323056722718707713
     
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    Yes . . . because all of those Blacks and Whites captured on camera rioting, looting, and burning stuff are actually right wing radicals. Hahahahaha! Oh . . . and with that piece of garbage that you just posted to me, you go right back on ignore.
     
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    No, only if Trump shot an unarmed black man would that happen. Try to keep up.
     
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    One trick pony, you are.

    Some crazy Republicans brought a horse to Barr's house, demanding he arrest Joe Biden

    Trump supporters are quite delusional. (not you, of course. You're just a one trick pony :))
     
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    Keeping his mouth shut is bending over backwards?
     
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    This seems to be the leftists' goal with regards to the entire opposition... the cancel culture, violence, riots, harassment, dehumanization.... that's all the left does and shutting up anyone who is not a lib is their obvious objectve.

    With this in mind, thanks, but no thanks. Let the man speak. ;)
     
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    Eh, given Trump's complete allergy toward any kind of evidence, all he'll need to claim he's "ahead" is some tweet saying he is. "I'm hearing I'm ahead." It's his usual game. He never considered evidence; he only considers rumors that he likes.

    If he loses, I think he'll eventually leave on his own accord, though he'll deny all along that he actually lost and I don't think we'll ever get a concession speech . . . or even any actual acknowledgement that he lost in any kind of form.
     
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    Great! That gives me an opportunity to criticize what you say behind your back.

    Love it when people put me on ignore right after they lose a debate.
     
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    Did they break windows and take the TV?
     
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    When they say three anonymous sources you know that fiction is to follow.
     
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    That's one convoluted argument.

    Not speaking is not bending over backwards. It's called common decency. It's practiced by virtually all professional adults.

    Bending over backwards: involves action
    Silence: does not involve action

    Equating the two is beyond fallacious. It's truly bizarre.
     
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    In any case Biden and Harris cannot be legitimate presidents, since they support criminals.
     
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    You understand it makes absolutely no difference, right? If Trump declares victory in states that are just starting to count votes only because he's ahead, those "three anonymous sources" will have been proven right.

    Most likely you didn't understand that. But now you do.
     
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    Then Mr Barr will be wanting his TV back
     
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    I think a paradoxical vortex just opened up in the universe.
     
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    I'm pretty sure they'll allow him to have one when he's in prison.
     
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    And Trump can be a "legitimate president" despite the fact that he is a criminal?
     
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