scott e.'s thread on Obama's Birth Certificate

I'll use the metaphor of a potential terrorist trying to get past the TSA airport screeners.

He displayed cues which attracted the attention of the TSA.

They interrogated him and he passed. But something about him still smelled fishy. So, he was asked to empty his pockets and remove his shoes. He became evasive and the questions about his underwear made him visibly nervous. So, he was strip searched and still the TSA found nothing. Finally he was sent through an X-ray scanner whereupon he was arrested for hiding explosives up his rectal cavity.

The lesson here to you should be that even though this traveller was given more scrutiny than most other passengers, he also had the most to conceal.

Just because you think you know a great deal about Obama doesn't mean you know what he's concealing from view.

And why him?

Is it because of his color?

Why would a Black man oppose having a Black POTUS?

I applaud that kind of progress if everything else proves satisfactory.

This is quite different than the route some of you came by to wind up supporting Obama.

Some of you fell in love with the narrative...a Black man becoming President. WOW! And he's clean and speaks well and, on the face of it (as deeply as many American voters ever examine ANYTHING signifcant...Oy Vey!) looks to be perfectly well qualfied. And with the media supporting him, well he MUST have been exhaustively vetted. Right? So, the ONLY reason to oppose him or question his quals or suspect him of mal intent is because his critics MUST be rascists. Right?

Well, I think Jake Tapper, formerly with ABC News, explained that in Obama's battle with Hillary for the '08 Dem. nomination, it was fully expected that Sen. Clinton would win. Therefore, there was no need to fully vet the young, promising challenger, ESPECIALLY if it meant exposing any damaging info about him which might sink his future political ambitions before they even got started.

So, many in the MSM chose to give him a free pass when it came to really digging to find what he might be desperately hiding "up his ass" that might give the American voter good, solid, justifiable reasons to deny him their vote.

He wanted to conceal parts of his past.

The media negligently allowed him to skip the TSA equivalent of a full body screening.

So, now he's in the cockpit and he's convinced most of America's voters that HIS intended destination for this country is the same destination THEY bought a ticket for.

I say it isn't.

You all refuse to even ask him to submit to a more intrusive screening on the basis that he's the 'pilot' and he hasn't crashed the plane YET and he's headed in a more or less right direction so "leave him alone!"

Too bad for U.S. that by the time his intentions are made clear to some of you, it will be too late to prevent the radical, fundamental changes he warned us of.

No, I oppose many of Obama's policies and proposals and intentions.

I abhor the MSM's negligence in adequately vetting him and feel they should be held legally, or even criminally, liable for not protecting the sanctity of our electoral process as had come to be expected of them by tradition and practice.

I am alarmed that someone with such a nefariously suspicious background (his Mom, Dad, Step-Dad, Grandparents, mentors, Professors, friends and campaign advisors and administration appointees are Socialists and/or Communists or are closely related to 'ists) that would prevent his being qualified to be an FBI or Secret Service agent, would be able to infiltrate our political machinery at the highest level.

I am saddened to realize that the functional equivalent of children, (and female children at that!) are making ill-informed and uninformed decisions at the polls in elections that are this important in our nation's history.

I am NOT upset about Obama's race and I'd say my feelings are echoed by probably most of his right wing opponents.

So, answer me these questions about Obama if you know his background so well.

www.westernjournalism.com/exclusive-investigative-reports/the-mystery-of-barack-obama-continues/

 

There are a few people who've said the writing style in the book looked much more like Ayer's than Obama's. Maybe that's why Obama spent $1.4 million to conceal all of his writings from college.

 

Bear in mind, all of you, I am curious. I have no answers for the questions listed here as vwell as other questions others have raised about his past.

And the difference between me and you is that you think you have all the answers about Obama. I know that you do not.

I want to get the answers.

You do not.

That shows your judgment to be less reliable than even the birfers you ridicule.

 

And none of them have offered a case that could stand up to critical scrutiny. Jack Cashill's most recent accomplishment?

Bragging about a fake award he got from a fake law school.

.http://barackryphal.blogspot.com/2012/02/jack-cashill-brags-about-fake-award.html

These are the kind of people you think are smart? It does you no credit.

You really have to stop making stuff up. Obama has spent nothing to hide his writings from college, and none of them are hidden.

 

Undirected "curiosity" with no answers has another name; stupidity.

You don't even have any answers for the questions I asked you in the previous post. In fact, this response of your runs away from them, runs away from the evidence I offered, runs away from my own answers to your questions. My demonstration remains unchallenged.

Obama is the most comprehensively vetted President in all of American history, and you are an explicit, unrefined and unapologetic hypocrite.

You prove yourself the credulous poseur we already knew you were.

Enjoy your misery as we all live through President Obama's second term.

 

Fascinating analogy.

Except Obama has been screened by the voters, and they have already determined that no matter how much fecal matter his opponents throw, that he is not a terrorist.

Like I said before- I hold every President to the same standard. Why don't you?

The same could be said about every President we have ever had.

Like I said before- I hold every President to the same standard. Why don't you?

I hold every President to the same standard. Why don't you? The only obvious difference is his color.

There about as many black Birthers as there are black men at a KKK rally.

Like I said before- I hold every President to the same standard. Why don't you?

Barack Obama has been vetted exactly as every previous President. I know more about Barack Obama than I did about George Bush.

That is the Birther narrative- false- but that is the story you stick to.

There is not one bit of evidence to support that oft repeated Birther lie.

Like I said before- I hold every President to the same standard. Why don't you?

The media- like myself held Obama to the same standard of every President. Why don't you?

Thank you for recognizing that the voters did indeed choose Obama.

Well that is what drives Birtherism isn't. Not all Birthers are racists. Some are just opponents to Obama who are willing to accept any wildass claim that they think would harm Obama.

Like I said before- I hold every President to the same standard. Why don't you?

Well this circles back to nutty Birtherism again.

Like I said before- I hold every President to the same standard. Why don't you?

And because of that you are a Birther.

Like I said before- I hold every President to the same standard. Why don't you?

Well that is the Birther narrative isn't it? Always easy to lie about dead people. I am always amazed at how cavalierly Birthers smear Barack Obama mother and grandparents. They frankly have no shame or morals.

Well that speaks for itself. You not only consider American voters children- but you say that female children are even more inferior.

This folks is the high intellect of Birtherism.

You may not care about Obama's race- but the only President you have ever- ever- asked for a full body TSA scan just happens to be the only black President.

Questions? That is mostly the same old Birther propaganda:
It is estimated that Obama’s legal team has now spent well over $1.4 million dollars blocking access to documents every American should have access to. The question is why would he spend so much money to do this?

This is Birthers estimate- not any real persons. The question is why would Birthers make this up? There is absolutely no evidence that Barack Obama has spent a dime blocking access to any documents- and there would be no need to- since those documents are protected by law.


here we go with the laundry list of things Birthers stamp their feet and demand.

So- tell me- which of these documents did George Bush provide? How about Ronald Reagan?

will not unseal his medical records,
his school records,
his birth records or
his passport records.
his Harvard records,
Columbia College records
Occidental College records
he will not even release his Columbia College thesis.
All his legislative records from the Illinois State Senate
In addition, no one can find his school records for the elite K-12 college prep school, Punahou School, he attended in Hawaii.

Like I said before- I hold every President to the same standard. Why don't you?

I could answer every single one of those bogus Birther claims- but it all comes down to this:

Like I said before- I hold every President to the same standard. Why don't you?

Let me put it another way- we have had 44 Presidents- line all 44 Presidents in a row- 43 pasty white guys and one caffe latte colored- and see if you can quickly pick out the only President Birthers have ever demanded this stuff from.

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There are Birthers who are willing to lie about anything.

 

And since you danced around answering this obvious question- I will repost it?

 

don't you mean any president jeff ??

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this has to be some sort of a record.

 

obama didn't spend a single penny "hiding" anything. it's called privacy laws. how much have YOU spent hiding your records?

 

I'm not making up the $1.4 million I read that he spent to conceal his past.

And because you think I'm making up the fact of his hidden writings and school records then you should have no problem providing a link where we all can examine them.

Put up or shut up time.

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Not as much as Obama has.

 

None of the White presidential candidates skated into contention by going unexamined by a usually aggressive, suspicious and sceptical media corps.

What I'm trying to tell you is that for a number of reasons the media failed to do it's job of adequately vetting Obama and you and people like you who fell in love wth Obama allowed this negligence to happen with your blessings.

You don't deserve to suffer the damage you may have naively, ignorantly helped cause this nation but you do bear some responsibility for what happens as a result of it.

 

prove he spent a single penny "hiding" them then. Show us your evidence.

you do know that there are privacy laws in this country right? I can't just get ahold of YOUR school records, or birth records if I want to see them.

 

A fantastic example of why people shouldn't just believe 'stuff' they read on the internet.

I will ask it again- why do you hold this particular President to a different standard than every other President.

We do not have President Obama's 'school writings' or 'school records' for the same reason we don't have Bush's or Clinton's or Reagan's. Those of us who went to college know that college's keep little if any of our writings' while in college, and few of us still have college papers 30 years later.

I no more expected Obama to show me his college records than I expected Romney to. And I will point out that neither of them did.

How deliciously ironic to hear from a Birther- you have made lots of claims- haven't 'put up' a single thing- seriously the best you have had is "I read it somewhere'- lol.

Zero = Zero- so yes you have. Matter of fact, I am willing to say you have spent twice as much as Obama!

 

There have been similar birther lies to that affect. It's generally claimed that he spent some outrageously huge number (birthers can never seem to agree what exact number to make-up) to hide his birth certificate. But yours is a brand new fabrication, an original lie coming from you. You are the first to assert that he spent $1.4 million to hide his college writings.

And I have no problem. But I have already invested once in doing your homework for you, and you are now trying to change the subject. Google is your friend. I'll give you three hints though... the Harvard Law Review, the Occidental literary magazine Feast, and the Columbia Sundial.

Oh no, PK.

You shot that wad. It doesn't work a second time.

 

No candidate has- this is just Birther rational for the obvious question of why is the only candidate that they have ever asked these questions for the only one who isn't pastey white.

There is not a single thing you demand of Obama that you had for Bush.

What I am telling you is that the only President that you have ever thought was not vetted properly just coincidentally happened to be the black candidate.

What damage? I am doing better than I was the day before Obama was sworn in in 2008.

I will point out once again- I think all Presidents should be held to the exact same standards- not just the white ones.

 

William F Buckley, were he alive today, would be deathly embarrassed by the birfers.

What he fought against to make conservatism a reputable intellectual force in America is being replicated by these ridiculous birfers.

 

never cared for him harper.

 

I'm sure you didn't, scott.

I hope you are well.

 

cause we all know the lawyers work pro bono.


Obama's Noelani Elementary School Kindergarten records, oddly missing from the State of Hawaii Department of Education -- just one more coincidence in a series of "coincidences."

i think they've been located since.

http://theobamafile.com/ObamaEducation.htm

 

you too amigo... i always thought buckley was the original stuffed shirt. i would always cringe when he came on.

 

no lawyer helped obama "hide" anything.

lol, jesus christ birthers are retarded. kindergarten records, or any other school records, are not kept at a states department of education.

it continues to suck to be a birther

 

You'd better be glad Obama WASN'T held to the same standards of vetting as White candidates because he NEVER would have been voted into office.

 

I will point out once again- I think all Presidents should be held to the exact same standards- not just the white ones.

Why don't you?

 

1. Obama isn't even a participant in most of the birther cases, so in them he has no lawyers working at all, pro bono or otherwise.

2. At least one of his lawyers in the three cases that took place before he was elected was working pro bono.So yes, lawyers do sometimes work pro bono and we do all know that. In the other two cases, his lawyers successfully had the cases dismissed after filing a total of 42 pages of legal pleadings. That would have been about $15,000 total... except they were already on retainer so it cost Obama nothing.

3. For those cases after the election, he has generally been defended by justice department lawyers. They are on salary, and so they get paid the same regardless of whether they defend the president or sit at their desks making chains out of paper clips. The incremental cost of birther litigation in those cases has been zero dollars.

4. For the tiny handful of cases since the election when he has been defended by non-justice department lawyers, all those lawyers have already been on retainer for purposes other than responding to frivolous birther cases. The incremental cost of birther litigation in those cases has been zero dollars.

5. In every single case where the President has been sued, his lawyers have successfully had the cases dismissed. This is the single most inexpensive way to end litigation.

6. Last but not least, if you object to the President spending any money at all to defend himself from frivolous lawsuits, then complain to your birther buddies for continuously filing frivolous lawsuits. The President has never once sued himself.

And as is typical in birther assertions, this one is a complete lie. A total fabrication. A figment of some early birther's fevered imagination. The State of Hawai'i Department of Education has never even been asked whether or not they have his kindergarten records. How do I know this? I contacted them in November 2008 and asked. They also assured me that if anybody did ask, they couldn't tell them. It would be against the law.

They were never missing.

 

As has been proven in this thread, Obama is the single most comprehensively vetted presidential candidate in all of American history.

So what;s you excuse now?