scott e.'s thread on Obama's Birth Certificate

Are you dense or daft?

I DO, I DO, I DO, I DO, I DO (a tip o' the cap to ABBA)

I do wish Obama had been treated the same as White candidates.

If he HAD been, HE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ELECTED.

Obama was given a free pass by the media and the voters, apparently like yourself, who fell in love with him and suffered premature evaluation at the sight and sound of him before making sure he was fully vetted...WHICH HE WAS NOT.

Bush 43 was fully vetted.
Clinton was fully vetted.
Bush 41 was fully vetted.
Reagan was fully vetted.
Carter was fully vetted.
Ford was fully vetted.
Nixon was fully vetted.
LBJ was fully vetted.
Kennedy was fully vetted.
Eisenhower was fully vetted.
Truman was fully vetted.
FDR was fully vetted.
Hoover was fully vetted.
Coolidge was fully vetted.
Harding was fully vetted.
Wilson was fully vetted.
Teddy Roosevelt was fully vetted.
McKinley was fully vetted.

All the White presidents were fully vetted.

Obama was not fully vetted.

Do you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth? (tip o' the cap to Chris Tucker)

 

Just like your threshold for vetting is ridiculously low, so seems to be your standard of "proof" for this thread.

You have proven nothing.

EDIT: Except that Obama has successfully hidden his dark and secretive past from people like you who don't want to find what he is hiding.

 

Do you use the term, 'birthers' or 'birfers' to mean just those who question/dispute Obama's place of birth? Or do you mistakenly label ANYONE who points out gaps and voids of information about Obama's hidden past, birthers/birfers?

 

Oh I can read the words.

I will state it again- I hold all Presidents to the same standard and Obama was vetted exactly like all the White guys.

Lets look at some of the 'questions' you asked- and compare

What did Presidents show voters:

Birth Certificate: Obama yes- Bush no, Clinton no.

Graduate School records: Obama no, Bush no, Clinton no.

Elementary school records: Obama no, Bush no, Clnton no.

By any measurement Obama has provided more information to establish his eligibility than any other President.

Yet which is the only President that you insist is obligated to provide a carefully select Birther list of documents?

The only black one.

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Anyone who spouts the Birther talking points.

Like you.

 

What dark and secretive past?

So far you have failed to establish that Obama's past is any more 'dark and secretive' than Bush's or Clinton's- because the facts show we know more about Obama than either of them.

How about this- why don't you provide proof of anything you claim- since you won't accept actual facts.

 

I have answered your questions, proved where you were wrong, given you a long list of the documentation available for this president that has never been made available for any other... it's no longer an issue of subjective standards or personal thresholds.

It has been objectively proven in this thread that Barack Obama is the single most comprehensively vetted president in all of American history. You have proven too poltroonish to even respond to that demonstration, choosing instead to stick your fingers in your ears and loudly whistle Dixie.

Since it is no longer tenable to credit your opinion as being honest, we are instead left to speculate on what it is about this particular president that actually inspires in you such raging hypocrisy.

The lead speculation is skin color.

 

No. It applies to anyone who entertains any one of many (often contradictory) theories that Obama is not a natural born US citizen or is somehow otherwise ineligible for the Presidency.

There is actually no one genuinely in that category. There are people who pretend there are such "voids or gaps," but invariably they are some combination of dishonest and ignorant.

 

needs to be vetted, still haven't seen his birth certificate, just that phony composite online. sheriff joe's posse has more.

it's just like the benghazi coverup.

 

No, yes you have, no they don't, and yes- it is just like the 'benghazi coverup' conspiracy theory.

Just as ridiculous

 

panetta: "trust me" to sean smith's mother....

clinton: "we'll make sure the maker of the video is arrested and prosecuted"....

what a joke...

plus his ss # is all screwed up:


http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/02/motion-for-reconsideration-of-default.html

world hoax....

by a shotgun

 

lol, birthers

 

Sheriff Joes posse has proven to be a scam.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/116752480/The-Annotated-Zullo


Joe Arpaio hired a child-sex offender for armed “posse”

Yes, it has. That too is a figment of fevered right-wing imaginations.

 

LOL... Scott has now deteriorated to birther Tourette's.

 

by now, most people can sense something is very wrong, that they are being misled and deceived on so many levels. if it comes down to his ever having a different name, soetoro for instance. all roads lead to chicago.

 

I don't think you have a clue what the word "most" means.

Obama Approval Rating Reaches 3-Year High In Bloomberg Poll

 

or was he ever known by a different name than barack hussein obama.... stuff like that

 

not according to any US legal documents.

 

that may be a problem right, if he disinformed the illinois bar for instance. or other forms. don't forget lawyer people are big on their ethics.

 

no, it's not a problem. there is no evidence obama ever went by another name in the US.

 

Unless he was practicing law at age ten, the Illinois bar does not care.

Not a single birther among them.

 

But what about Orly?

 

"most people'?

LOL- that must be Birther math- President Obama's popularity continues to grow with voters, far, far, beyond the popularity of Congress.

 

While technically a lawyer- the statement was at ethics- which is just one more thing that Orly doesn't know.

 

I'm Black and your preoccupation with skin color makes you sound like a person to whom race means a great deal. That's what closeted bigots sound like. It's always SOMEONE ELSE who makes bigoted decisions based on a person's skin color. It's NEVER them.

I guess this must be puzzling to you.

Maybe you are a bigot. Maybe you're not a bigot.

If you aren't a bigot you must be wondering, 'if they criticize Obama, who I find to be without a flaw, it MUST be because of his skin color...it can't be anything else. He's perfect in my eyes!'

Something else about you, your posts and your positions that occurred to me is that you don't know what's involved in fully vetting a candidate.

Vetting is a formal and an informal process that lasts no set amount of time, is conducted usually, but not exclusively, by the candidate's party and the news media and anyone who has pertinent info about the candidate which might affect how the voters think about said candidate.

And the process contines until there are no more questions about the candidate which might affect his/her ability to do the job, their qualifications to hold the job or the voter's knowledge of the candidate's positions, present and past written & verbal statements, actions/activities and associations/acquaintances.

You keep saying Obama's been vetted. With that I should have realized immediately that you haven't a clue what a thorough vetting means, even though I've kept telling you that there are still lots of unanswered questions about Obama.

I'll make it simple for you.

If questions remain about him, that means he hasn't been fully vetted.

 

Obama Lied To The Illinois Bar About Barry Soetoro
http://secondamendmentfreedom.blogspot.com/ ^ | 08/18/2012

Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2012 8:41:03 AM by Sasparilla

Why did Barack Obama lie about never using the name Barry Soetoro on his Registration with the Illinois Bar Association? "Full Former names" is the second question on the ATTORNEY'S REGISTRATION AND PUBLIC DISCIPLINARY RECORD.

However, instead of Listing "Barry Soetoro," he wrote the word "NONE" on the "Former Names Used" line.

The Bar wants to know EVERYTHING on the background about its members, and generally do not look kindly on deception by applicants or members. This could have lead to more questions about "Barry Soetoro" if he disclosed that name. Such as, when, where, and how was it used. There could have been requests by the Bar for supporting documents that were used with than name which could prove embarrassing.



i'm not even sure if he was required to tell the truth on the form or not, but that could be a thing. remember, my concern is did he ever use the power of an office to misdirect or intentionally obfuscate. it's so hard to get any straight answers from this administration. like the sequester, who's idea was it and when did they know it ??