Sea level rise is accelerating

Well, it has been warming since the end of the Little Ice Age so it should not be surprising that glaciers melt. There is no evidence the oceans are acidifying, that is just another prediction. A magazine contacted the NOAA and the scientist that responded said they have no evidence of current ocean acidification to the dismay of the reporter. Consensus is not fact.

 

More of the denier cult's delusional nonsense and outright lies......completely meaningless.

 

Too bad every science agency on the planet disagrees with you. Lol

 

So you really have no clue. Got it.

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Live by logical fallacy, die by logical fallacy.

 

Hoosier8......... in my opinion the author of the following article is basically accurate...... and yes.... .the West Antarctic Ice Sheet is perhaps the greatest challenge facing all of humanity.

From your research do you think the author is being illogical?

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015...antarctic-ice-sheet-raise-sea-levels-3-meters

Just a nudge could collapse West Antarctic Ice Sheet, raise sea levels 3 meters

As you know..... I personally am NOT advocating a carbon tax response....... it would not work fast enough to actually address the problem!

Now this is more like it!

http://www.ssb-foundation.com
Sahara Solar Breeder Foundation

 

Media outlets often do not tell the whole story. For instance, this one refers to one paper, there are many. Second, the paper relies on models, which are really not good a predicting anything. Second, what is usually not relayed is the time scale which in this case, the time scale for a 'collapse' (scientific use of collapse, not media collapse) takes centuries and even a millennia to complete. This would be on the same scale that all natural change takes place, for instance, Florida used to be twice as large as it is now and since the end of the last glaciation, glaciers have been melting raising sea levels. Sea level has never been stable.

Another fact is that West Antarctica lies on the Pacific Rim of fire and includes a volcano with one of the few open lava pools, Mount Erebus.

The fact is that there is little evidence other than speculation that CO2 has anything to do with this.

Consider Clashing Scientific and Societal Meanings of ‘Collapse’ When Reading Antarctic Ice News

 

Another one of your insanely long rants that I will sum up. You don't live any different than us "deniers" do, all you do is rant and rave online. Your only suggestion to stop this AGW so called catastrophe is to vote dem. You are a "useful idiot".

 

And your only solution to fight ISIS, reduce the deficit.....blah blah blah ....is to vote gop.

 

Good points...... the fact that the WAIS is on the Pacific Rim and is vulnerable to volcanoes and earthquakes is another good reasons why people truly concerned about climate change should be discussing options that would work much faster than a carbon tax!

http://www.politicalforum.com/opini...saving-new-orleans-florida-rising-oceans.html
The Sahara Forest Project...and saving New Orleans and Florida from rising oceans!

http://saharaforestproject.com/

 

Which experiment are you referring to? The one where we do a double blind experiment on the earths climate?

the ones done that show that 10 to 50 PPM of CO2 increase warming. Or that adding 1.6F is dangerous to the planet and mankind.

 

How could the co2 experiment be done without a double blind experiment on the climate.... We already have done extensive experiments on the physical properties of the gas if you are interested in those

And i think few people argue the current warming is disastrous... The issue is future warming
But, let me ask you a question
Is there any level of warming that you WOULD CONSIDER DANGEROUS.?,
200 degrees?
100 degrees?
50 degrees?r

Pick a number, or assure us that any warming has safe consequences

 

why, do you think the physics of it allows that kind of increase? Just want to level set your thought here. What was the temperature of earth when the CO2 in the atmosphere was 2000PPM?

 

Funny, I have lived on the coast for 45 years. No sea level rise.

 

The question is whether there any temperature that you would find concerning
I am less concerned, or reassured by the temperature in the jurrasic period
Nor for that matter does anyone propose the
Glib idea that there is some direct connection to the earths temperature

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Factually inaccurate

 

There are lots of positive and negative feedback loops in the atmosphere and it has never strayed past a particular low or high. Doubt it will in the future unless we fall into the sun. We have been in a 2.5 million year ice age so we are actually at a low temperature for Earth.

 

In other words, a point by point response to the demented drivel you posted is too much for your very limited attention span to handle, and besides, you are way too brainwashed and ignorant to understand any of the actual scientific facts I mentioned anyway, let alone accept them as real......all of which adds up to you being totally incapable of "summing up" a response you are so obviously unable to comprehend.....and so you post even more demented drivel!

Your brainwashing must have blinded you.

What I actually said in response to your question..."...you are right and man is warming the planet which will have catastrophic results. Tell us what we do to stop this?"....was this:

What you or I can do individually is pretty trivial......but as far as what 'we' as the human race, or 'we' as the American people, can do, there is quite a bit that urgently needs to be done.

The primary thing is to clearly recognize what the human race is doing in the first place to cause this warming of the planet. The best scientific experts around the world are pretty near unanimous in affirming that it is the 43% increase in atmospheric carbon dioxide levels and the 250% increase in methane levels that have resulted from human activities that are causing the warming....because CO2 and methane are powerful greenhouse gases. The primary human activities responsible for the CO2 and methane buildup are, number one and most significantly and by far the largest portion, the burning of fossil fuels - coal, oil and natural gas - which has emitted 2000 billion tons of CO2 since 1750, with the large majority of that amount since 1950....and then deforestation, which removes the natural mechanisms for removing CO2 from the air......and then raising cattle and other similar animals who fart significant amounts of methane and other agricultural activities and coal mining and fracking that release methane.....and then cement manufacturing, which releases significant CO2.....

The most important and most urgent things 'we' can do right now to deal with this situation are the various ways that 'we', as a country and as a planetary civilization, can reduce mankind's huge CO2 emissions and make the switch from fossil fuels to clean renewable energy sources. This transition would also greatly help with the methane buildup problem as well by rendering obsolete two of the biggest contributors - coal mining and fracking/natural gas drilling.

As individuals, the most important and most effective thing we can do right now to deal with this climate change crisis would be to support and elect politicians who are willing to deal with the climate change crisis honestly on a national level by working on drastically reducing carbon emissions and methane emissions (as almost 200 nations just agreed to do)......and vote against any politicians who are stooging for the fossil fuel industry by opposing any effective actions, like instituting carbon emissions taxes, to deal with this crisis.

 

LOL, You must have missed the part where I said I live on the coast.

 

but he's a lib and he knows more than you and darn it, if he said so then you know that it is as he says cause he knows everything about the planet.

 

You say you live in florida

Here is what the state of Florida says

Perhaps you should offer your expertise to them

 

So if i agree, then we agree that there is lots of uncertainty.... Which includes uncertainty about the possibility and severity of agw

Unfortunately, climate history offers little reassurance if it happens to be true that we are impacting the climate
it is pretty certain that the earth on life on the earth will adapt over a geologic time period. The adaptation process is often filled with inconvenience for those who need to go through it. The problem is not that the earth or life will cease to exist.... But the environment we currently find pleasant could become less pleasant

 

That would happen no matter what so the best place to put your money is in adaption instead of trying to control the outcome.

 

Soooo. what did they say?
Homes have not washed away. So, tell me all about the rising sea level.

 

If the climate does warm, and sea levels rise
It is inevitable that lots of money will be devoted to adaption

But there is no reason that we have to choose one and ignore the other

Also, it is unknown what would happen to the clinate if agw had no impact

But, if agw theory is correct
We can remove some of what ever impact we may be having
It may be a waste of resources, or it may be critically important, or maybe in between
Neither you nor i can prove which will be the case
Which is why i support prudent and cost effective approaches to mitigation

It is not the case that we need to choose either to do nothing, or to enact radical measures

 

So homes washed away are the only measure?
And no doubt you have accurate instruments and long term records to support your observations about sea levels... Oh yeah, i forgot.... Your only Measure is whether a home near you has washed away

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/12/21/the-siege-of-miami

 

Leaving even less for risk management, which is the only real and effective response you have.