Sean Hannity defends Adrian Peterson for hitting son

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  1. Divergent

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    Hitting A Child Teaches what? Violence resolves all problems?

    Violence on children teaches violence is the answer to problems. And anyone that has seen political discussions today has seen people that don't want to DISCUSS anything, they just want to use violence so other OBEY THEM.

    I'm not talking spanking. There is a big difference.

    It's almost embarrassing watching Sean Hannity stick up for his dad while admitting he never went to therapy while noting therapy is only a person willing to listen. The therapy was THEN.
    [video=youtube;UyP4EYJyGAY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyP4EYJyGAY[/video]

    Crazy how the Fox News backups seemed to know more about the topic than he does. Progress is scary sometimes.

    Pro-Tip Mr. Hannity. Good parents don't have kids troubled enough to deserve a belt. Because good parents KNOW HOW TO RAISE A CHILD, not a troubled kid.
     
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    I'll have to burst the bubble to my thread.

    It teaches children to get mad about issues instead of discussing them. It teaches them the perspective of "Why don't you see things my way, you are so stupid!" It teaches Violent Control.

    It teaches children that if they don't agree, anger and violence will fix that situation.

    Watching our American History should teach at least a few of us new and better ways.
     
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    Agreed. Watch the older sibling, who gets spanked regularly, use spanking as a way to control their younger sibling(s). Domestic violence and child abuse is something that, unfortunately, perpetuates, because the abused will eventually become the abuser themselves.

    It is not just physical violence, btw. emotional and verbal abuse can also be harmful.
     
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    Strange. My mom used to spank me for being bad when I was little, hell she spanked all my brothers and sisters. None of them became violent as you guys wish to claim.

    I became violent later on in the years, but it had nothing to do with spanking. I had tendencies to violence starting at around age 12-13, but it was because of bullying and I started fighting back . Never had a mean streak until then. Before that I would just wonder what I did wrong to deserve that treatment, but once I got into my first real fight I didn't have any thought to hurt anyone. I mean I never became some raging psychopath that just wants to hurt people, but bullies brought out something that will not allow anyone to push me around anymore, and I have no problem getting physical with any man who wants to try and attack me.

    Children who have violent tendencies towards others have a little bit more going on than spanking, might wanna look into other factors as to why they are the way they are. My bullies were all priveledged rich kids who's parents gave them what they wanted , very unlikely their parents were spanking them.

    From what I can tell there are a lot of violent kids due to not having a good mother and father core at home, not taught good values and manners or are not shown the love and care a child does in fact need.

    Gonna tell me spanking turns a kid into a gangbanger?
     
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    I'll have to admit, I spank. But not the way it use to be done. I had wooden spoons broken over my legs and fly swatter marks on my legs for days. This is not spanking.

    I'm not debating you, but I'm more curious about the subject and want to see others opinions.

    I only spank when it's last resort.

    I'm a strong believer in "Positive reinforcement of good actions" parenting and I use it as a boss as well. Children and adults want to hear they are doing good and most of us don't very often.

    I think I needed light reactive spanking when they were toddlers, but I don't think I needed it when they were past 4. At 5 they told me, "You don't have to spank me, just use your words" which is a direct reflection of babies crying instead of using their words. We have a lot to discuss and learn .
     
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    I don't want to teach Psych here, but, why not. "I had tendencies to violence starting at around age 12-13, but it was because of bullying and I started fighting back "is what you stated.

    Kids are blank canvases. No kid is violent unless they learn it from a source. Trust me, kids will be EXCACTLY what their parents teach them to be. Look at a hippy kid. Does he hit other kids? Again, kids are exactly what we raise them to be. On a side note, my grandpa taught his dog to bark at black people. I hope you receive the what I am saying.

    Children take ONE of two paths. They are either just like their parents, or they adapt and progressively change. Isn't that politics as well? I mean, doesn't Donald Trump remind of us Scrooge? Some learn, some don't.

    It sounds to me like you were in an area, similar to mine, where you wanted to get away from that "system" but the other kids were not changing. And today we have a push on "Anti-Bully" for a reason.

    I want to note it's not always a violent parent, sometimes it's a neglectful parent that have a violent child. Poor people don't have much time to spend with their children, they are working. And sometimes parents that don't want parental responsibilities work more just to avoid that responsibility and claim that it was because they wanted the best for their children. We all know the only thing children want is their parents to be with them, up until a certain age. They don't want day care.
     
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    This explains a lot about Mr. Hannity.:chainsaw:
     
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    Fox News AND their followers rely on "hate mongering" and/or "anger mongering. I found it strange to see my old best friend from when we were very young and he was hit "open hand" all the time. Back then it wasn't hitting if it was open hand. His dad hit him to the floor and today he is a Fox News junkie. Because "Anger Mongering" is what he knows. He feels right at home.
     
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    No, not every kid. It didn't bother your siblings, as you said. But they weren't bullied TOO. Also, as you point out, a child needs love and care, and if he gets them he'll probably be alright despite being hit on. However, one has to wonder how much love they're really getting if they're being used as a punching bag.
     
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    There is spanking and there is abuse. Hannity's opinions aren't worth much anyway. Worst radio and TV host ever.
     
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    He's a Corporate puppet. Your post is smart and that is a long lost trait we are fighting for.

    I said this before I read your child book signature that is scary but true. Texas Documentaries are the funniest. "God, please bring back our water".

    I'm Christian, but come on, sometimes Christians have to fight for the land against Corporations and not just rely on god.

    MOD EDIT>>>RULE 5<<
     
  12. Capitalism

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    Boo hoo a kid got spanked, at least he's there for his kids. Can 2/3rds of newborn black children say that? No they can't. Instead of demonizing a father why not demonize the cowards?

    I'll take someone who disciplines their kids over someone who doesn't or who isn't there at all.
     
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    ^This is what is alarming about America today. When did this become a black issue? Lawyers and Doctors, the 1% statistically have the worst parent to child relationships

    I'm certainly not profiling the 1%, why are you profiling blacks?
     
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    Because 2/3rds of black newborns are born without a father in their lives, yet your demonizing a father who I'm guessing provides his children with more than just the essentials.

    It's rather disgusting IMO.
     
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    The only way a parent can have respect of their children is to reward for good behavior and punish for bad behavior. This does not mean that punishment has to be is corporal. It does mean that reward and punishment requires follow through and that parents agree. This is not so easy as it sounds but will result in better behaved kids.
     
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    But the difference being I didn't start fighting until it was to protect myself from bullies. Before that I had been spanked for being bad, or talking back. Now I wasn't beaten by my parents, but I met the belt lol. I only got violent in self defense, I never just went and beat up on someone who never did anything wrong to me.

    My parents simply taugh me right from wrong, which I feel there is a huge lack of these days.
     
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    There is a major difference between a spanking and full on abuse. I never got spanked unless it was for a good reason.


    For the kids that just get beaten, yeah I'm sure that has a lot to do with why they may become more angry and violent. If a kid only knows violence then that is what he or she is going to show in many cases.
     
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    At my parochial school, if we acted out, we were hit with a wooden paddle...on the patoot. Sometimes so hard, you could not sit down. My Dad would take a leather belt to me on occasion.

    I grew up in fear of authority and respecting it. I have no criminal record outside of a few traffic tickets. I'm very non-violent and have never struck another person.

    I'm not going to tell someone the proper way to raise children, I have no children. I can only attest to the fact that corporal punishment is not a bad way to teach discipline. I was afraid of my teachers and I was afraid of my Dad. If I acted out, I could expect to be hit...not to the point of serious injury but it got my attention.

    I'm sorry but attempting to reason with a child is useless...fear must be instilled in them...fear of authority and fear of consequences.
     
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    ^I love your post EXTREMELY.

    I love your commonly shared perspective that once OPPRESSION stops, every side affect should stop with it instantly. Black oppression isn't " a long time ago" issue. Slavery is only 2 lifes ago.

    Let's discuss "blacks can't swim" and call it a black trait after blacks were banned from city pools 2 life's ago and could not teach their children how to swim.

    Or perhaps you want to take the angle of abortion some share where children without good parenting cause more violence
    [video=youtube;zk6gOeggViw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk6gOeggViw[/video]

    Looking at the way we have treated blacks is exactly how we have treated gays. Even before gays had rights to marry some were stating, "Ok, stop being dramatic, why make such a big deal". Who was the dramatic one here?

    I've personally seen a hard working black man get fired because we already had a minority to fill that position.

    I'm just going to let you know that no matter how many classes you say are bad parents, you won't pull off your strength in this issue that "some class" is bad at parenting. It's IGNORANCE.
     
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    I don't see gays murdering each other in the rates we see blacks? (Let me rephrase that, violently. HIV/AIDs could count there)

    I don't see the Chinese or the Japanese dawdling about in the ghettos?

    The Jews? Wtf the Jews are being successful? (<--- Even in Germany)

    The Jews and the Asians had it far worse than the blacks, yet they thrive.

    All you are doing now is saying one group is inferior to the others. Stop it.
     
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    What would warrant a child to be repeatedly hit in the genitals with a switch? People like you make me sick.
     
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    Corporal punishment leaves a mental scar on a child that carries well into adulthood.
     
  23. Capitalism

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    Who spanked a child on the genitals with a switch, please enlighten us oh great one.

    Where in this entire post did anybody ever condone that?

    Ignorant straw man, ignorant post.
     
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    http://www.inquisitr.com/1475650/adrian-peterson-child-testicles/

    Perhaps you should learn about the case before weighing in?
     
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    He said, "got him in the nuts once I noticed" and admitted that was a mistake.

    Now, who says repeatedly hitting a child in the testicles is acceptable? Sometimes accidents happens and that's what this seems to be.
     

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