Sebelius Admits Insurance Rates Are Going to Rise Under Obamacare

We told ya what would happen. But you didn't listen. Liberals never do. Always emotional is their argument. Now we have been vindicated by liberals own words:

http://www.humanevents.com/2013/03/...-admits-obamacare-is-raising-insurance-costs/

Watching our nation kill itself is quite comical. The people votin for these things don't have a clue what they are doing but they wield the power to destroy a nation.

So after years of Democrat lies and Obama Team lies, the truth has its day, as those of us on the right claimed long ago would happen, rates will rise. But like good crooks Dems and Obama sold the useful idiots on their utopian dream, only to have it crush them in return.

Thanks useful idiots, for being the mind numb robots you are.

 

Obama should commit suicide....

 

The lies that Barack Obama and the Democratic Party told the nation about Obamacare are just non-stop.

Health Care now costs a lot more, we have greater doctor shortages, and the level of care is worse.... they screwed up a pretty good system that only needed tweaking. They did it to seize power and control over 17% of the economy. This had nothing to do with improving healthcare for Americans and everything to do with being Marxists.

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Obama tells a crowd of idiot Democrat voters that premium costs will drop 3000% and employers should be able to give them a raise.

Someone get some needle-nosed pliers and pull the hooks out of all of their mouths.

 

Yep, saw this one this morning. We knew it would all along, thanks Obama.

 

Unbelievable. 3000%? How can your insurance fall 3000%???.....lol. People bought that, which is the scary part. That means not only will you not have to pay insurance, but insurance is going to be paying you....lol. 3000%....hahaha!!!!

Freaking idiots man.

 

Oh, indeed, the workers at Macdonald's and Walmart who pay money to get an fake "insurance policy" that wouldn't pay even enough even ER visit for a sprained ankle indeed are going to have higher costs, but they also are gong to have REAL insurance that will get them REAL treatment, without dumping their costs on the taxpayer when they can't pay the bill for a REAL problem.

The imaginary insurance so many our employers stuck employees with and that people have paid for made for some lower premiums, but when the SHTF for these people, they discovered they had NOTHING, and the country and the taxpayers paid the price for the huckster ripoff companies selling imaginary insurance that had loopholes you could drive a truck through.

 

So you have no comment on the democrat leadership lying and bamboozling... the ends which we have yet to realize justify the means we know to be BS?

This is how your leaders should do things?

 

Um fiddler, the taxpayer is on the hook, did you not read that they will have "subsidies"?...lol....aka....welfare?

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Um fiddler, the taxpayer is on the hook, did you not read that they will have "subsidies"?...lol....aka....welfare?

 

Well, here we have a right-wing fanatic quote-mining a right-wing "analysis" of an article found in the Wall Street Journal. And amazingly enough, it's being used to attack the Great Enemy. Now, what Sibelius actually said was:

Golly, just imagine. Better health care costs more. Blow me down! The question is, are we as a nation willing to reallocate some of our wealth for the purpose of improving the health care for those least able to afford it? Because (as Sibelius also goes on to say), those who can NOT afford the higher premiums will be subsidized by those who can.

I have no problem with the attitude that "the poor deserve it, let them suffer, I'm all right jack keep your hands off of my stack." The problem I have is with people unwilling to admit that this is what they are advocating.

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Well, here we have a right-wing fanatic quote-mining a right-wing "analysis" of an article found in the Wall Street Journal. And amazingly enough, it's being used to attack the Great Enemy. Now, what Sibelius actually said was:

Golly, just imagine. Better health care costs more. Blow me down! The question is, are we as a nation willing to reallocate some of our wealth for the purpose of improving the health care for those least able to afford it? Because (as Sibelius also goes on to say), those who can NOT afford the higher premiums will be subsidized by those who can.

I have no problem with the attitude that "the poor deserve it, let them suffer, I'm all right jack keep your hands off of my stack." The problem I have is with people unwilling to admit that this is what they are advocating.

 

If you have a Democrat already looking for free stuff or a handout, you can pretty much promise them anything. Obama has proved this to the utmost.

 

I see.

So the President should have kept REAL insurance cheaper than phony medical cards, or warned people that their joke, worthless policies would rise in price when they had to REALLY cover REAL medical care?

The Rightie's world is the ultimate nanny state.

 

Costs more that are then passed on to everybody else who had good coverage before, and now enjoy higher premiums for WORSE care.

Since when did MY wealth become OUR wealth?

In this county, people deserve nothing. Not wealth, not riches, nor poverty. However; everybody is FREE to determine what they will receive.

I don't think anybody DESERVES to be poor, nor do I believe people deserve to suffer. I do however believe that people who are poor and suffering often stem from the decisions they have made and they only deserve the opportunity to make any change they feel fit.

 

You eat yourself into a wheelchair, claim disability, and want the "haves" to provide you better healthcare, you can (*)(*)(*)(*)ing die.

That clear?

 

Yes, there will be subsidies so ALL people can afford to have REAL insurance so they can get REAL medical care in the most effective and least expensive way known - by getting regular checkups, doctor care and maintenance so little problems don;t turn into HUGE problems and cost MILLIONS in medical care for just ONE person.

People showing up at ERs for a cold just to get antibiotics, people showing up at ERs with late stage cancer or diabetes ready to need limbs amputated, kids who end up in lifetime care because of failing to get a vaccine or a simple medication when they got sick or a procedure to FIX some problem?

REAL care without having to go bankrupt and finally getting sick enough to not be working anymore to finally qualify to get medical care from medicaid saves ENORMOUS amounts of money.

Obamacare's TOTAL costs are trivial by comparison.

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Yes, there will be subsidies so ALL people can afford to have REAL insurance so they can get REAL medical care in the most effective and least expensive way known - by getting regular checkups, doctor care and maintenance so little problems don;t turn into HUGE problems and cost MILLIONS in medical care for just ONE person.

People showing up at ERs for a cold just to get antibiotics, people showing up at ERs with late stage cancer or diabetes ready to need limbs amputated, kids who end up in lifetime care because of failing to get a vaccine or a simple medication when they got sick or a procedure to FIX some problem?

REAL care without having to go bankrupt and finally getting sick enough to not be working anymore to finally qualify to get medical care from medicaid saves ENORMOUS amounts of money.

Obamacare's TOTAL costs are trivial by comparison.

 

Well alright!!! I like Obamacare! If I pay $4000 per year for insurance, they'll will pay me $120,000 per year thanks to Obamacare. I don't know how they can do it but it sounds like such a great deal. I think I'll always vote Democratic from now on.

 

The point is... they lied. Your support of the CinC lying to get socialist legislation passed notwithstanding... it is outrageous.

 

Since when did nationalizing ANY industry improve it , in any way, much less make it more effiecient/economical?

 

Nationalizing the road industry turned out pretty well.

Along with police and fire departments.

Just like health care, those industries totally sucked until the government started operating them.

 

Yes, it's clear. Misfortune is ALWAYS deserved - unless it happens to you.

 

The source, and the OP complaint, was that premiums would go up for those with poor current coverage. You have done a bait-and-switch here.

Since the human species evolved as a gregarious species, living in groups and cooperating with one another. I'd say, at least 200,000 years ago.

You mean, like rich parents. Like good health. Like no genetic problems. Like high intelligence. Where do I sign up?

According to the Wall Street Journal, the circulation into and out of each quintile is about 80% over 5 years. What this means is, the "poor" (the lowest 20%) experience 80% turnover of individuals in that period. They are NOT AT ALL the same individuals. People don't generally stay poor.

Interestingly, the same is true of the top 20% - 80% of THEM have fallen out of that quintile after 5 years as well. Seems good fortune is as whimsical as bad fortune. But people who suffer misfortunes blame bad luck, and those who get lucky credit their own efforts. Like the student who said "I EARNED an A in this course, but he gave me a D in that course.

 

Of course. These people have no moral core or ethics. And their followers, even less.

 

Obamacare certainly is turning out to be an unmitigated disaster. The naive and gullible liberals on this forum certainly fell for the lies they were fed about it by hypocritical scumbags like Obama and Pelosi. They were calling people who protested against Obamacare everything from racists to evil to traitors etc. I would point out how foolish they have made themselves look, but I would only be pointing out the obvious. Even they are starting to realize what complete morons they are.

I wouldn't be surprised if Obamacare costs the democrats a few senate seats as we get to witness this abomination of an ill-conceived and amateurishly executed piece of garbage legislation swing into full effect. You know that more than just a few Senators will be frantically trying to distance themselves from what they are responsible for inflicting on the nation.

 

been rising

"Wal-Mart Memo Suggests Ways to Cut Employee Benefit Costs " 2005

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/26/business/26walmart.ready.html?pagewanted=all

"Wal-Mart executives said the memo was part of an effort to rein in benefit costs, which to Wall Street's dismay have soared by 15 percent a year on average since 2002. Like much of corporate America, Wal-Mart has been squeezed by soaring health costs. The proposed plan, if approved, would save the company more than $1 billion a year by 2011."

"Ms. Chambers acknowledged that 46 percent of the children of Wal-Mart's 1.33 million United States employees were uninsured or on Medicaid."

we needed a public option like Obama wanted, to keep it from rising


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You think my wealth is yours.

Come try to take it. We can easily also discuss the importance of the 2nd amendment.

I find it disgusting collectivists think that they have any right to the fruits of others labor. I don't give a damn how nobel you think your efforts are, you have no right to dictate or assume ownership of anything you yourself didn't create.

Thinking that because people live in society, suddenly individuality gives way to collectivism. Thats how losers that never garnered anything of worthy think. How truly pathetic.

Whomever told you that you are guaranteeded equal outcomes lied to you.

No such guarantee or warranty was ever made.

Everybody has hurdles. Egalitarianism is an ugly ends.