It's really difficult to take anything you have to post seriously because all of it is apologist material and I mean like 99.9%. This shyt gets really old. I discuss 9/11 on this forum for many personal reasons and I'm not really interested in these ridiculous interrogations that have no redeeming value to me personally. So I'm going to treat your garbage for what it is and answer your questions as I see fit, not necessarily as you would like me to answer them. Then again, I believe I've always treated your garbage apologist material as such anyway. Yes there were and the bottom line is that the US government has zero credibility, same as you and cannot be trusted to conduct a legitimate investigation into 9/11 given its history and especially its history of fraudulent 9/11 investigations. Ok Alice, non sequitur. Sorry Mr. Apologist but what's in the manual is also the NTSB protocol that details how recovered parts are to be treated. If the NTSB "assists" the FBI after the FBI takes over there's zero reason for the FBI or the NTSB to fail to follow standard protocol as much as you want to excuse such egregious failure just because the FBI took over. Furthermore, you keep ignoring the fact that 2 FOIA requests for a parts match were denied for no valid reason. But for a groveling apologist, that's also inconsequential. To you because you would be comfortable with any half-a$$ed investigation because you don't care about anything 9/11 other than defending these outrageous frauds. See above, excuses, excuses and I'm the one "playing games" because I demand a legitimate investigation and you're not playing games because you readily excuse every failure under the sun. So in your world it's ok if the FBI decides that NTSB protocol should be dropped just like it's ok if NIST and the 9/11 Commission conduct farcical investigations because it's also ok that their agenda was strictly CYA, it's just naughty, naughty. The conclusions of these non-investigations that really served as coverups are still valid no matter what to a real game player.
So you read the 9/11 Commission Report and the NIST reports and you consider those legitimate? Awwww how cute. No I forgot to add a bunch of emojis, but after I do it's no longer a joke. Tell me Mr. Apologist you didn't read Hulsey's preliminary report (since you asked me for the link a couple of times), you don't want to take it seriously and you don't want to discuss any of the details because you're "waiting" but you readily stamp it as illegitimate. That makes all the sense in the world ... to an apologist. Speaking of one who doesn't do research (other than for what's convenient to an apologist). You failed to read what I posted (in the proper thread) and don't want to discuss any of the details so it's obvious you have no clue and there's no point discussing your fallacies. That's not how it's done if and when it's done legitimately. There are dated documents/logs of parts assigned to each airplane. There is also a chain of custody for recovered parts. That's of course IF the investigation is properly conducted. So then it's not in the NTSB manual, OBVIOUSLY. Thanks for confirming Margot's idiotic claim.
Blah, blah, blah... Lame answers once again as expected. Keep running Bob. That's what you're best at.
That's what your answers are Bob. Nothing but Vaporware. Everytime you get called out you rant and rave about apologists and supporting the"OCT" instead of answering questions. You're not here to find out the truth. Your here to spread "I'm just asking questions" and "Nobody knows the truth about 9/11" garbage. You keep spouting your crap and I'll just reply with information that shows how wrong you are. I don't need to ask you questions anymore. I know what you're all about.
More vaporware, nothing of any substance or sincerity (as always) and certainly nothing about any 9/11 discussion. You have yet to show that I'm wrong about anything but keep hoping if it makes you feel better. The post I'm responding to is a convenient copout so you won't have to respond to anything inconvenient for you. You never "needed" to ask me anything ever. It's not my job to educate you or convince you about anything about 9/11, nor am I inclined to. You're already convinced, so why would you want to ask me any questions in the first place? You are not making any sense and you rarely do. Good and the feeling is mutual Mr. 9/11 OCT Apologist. You fool no one. It's obvious to me you have some sort of agenda and it has nothing to do with trying to uncover the truth about 9/11, just the opposite if anything. BTW, just FYI in case you forgot but 9/11 is not about you or me. All discussions with you are and always have been about attacking all questions and contradictions about the OCT and its storytellers. They have never ever been about scrutinizing/analyzing the OCT despite your claim/admission that it was all CYA in the first place, which by itself renders it 100% illegitimate. You are your own contradiction.
The facts of the accident will be reviewed and should include the following: • Operator; • Aircraft type and registration number; • Type of flight, origin and intended destination; • Number of fatalities (or best information presently known); • Condition and location of crewmembers; • Extent of aircraft damage; and • Other information considered relevant (e.g., hazardous material (HAZMAT) and site considerations) Page 13 of NTSB protocols. https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/process/Documents/MajorInvestigationsManual.pdf
I already did several times. If you're asking then you have never read it and you're only posting what you think you know.
They don't inventory and take the numbers of every airplane part unless its called for by the nature of the investigation. As it was, they KNEW what plane hit the Pentagon. https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/process/Documents/MajorInvestigationsManual.pdf
1. It doesn't say that anywhere in the manual. The nature of this particular investigation was 9/11 an incredible event. 2. Your uninformed claim has nothing to do with reality and is just a wish and hope claim. 3. You are not an NTSB investigator and have no standing to make any claims in direct contradiction of the actual manual. 4. Appendix J of the NTSB Aviation Investigation Manual which you've never read is the standard protocol (in this context), not you. A legitimate forensic criminal investigation does not begin with a conclusion then reverse engineer its investigation to fit the conclusion. Your claim shows you know zero about investigations. Please go peddle your nonsense to posters willing to buy your snake oil. You have at least one equal minded fan (so far).
Learn to read and comprehend what you read. Makes a big difference. https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/process/Pages/default.aspx
Insulting my intelligence changes nothing about the facts or reality. When the FBI takes over an investigation from the NTSB and uses the NTSB as its expert assistant it doesn’t relieve the NTSB from trying to comply with its protocol or insisting that it be able to comply with its protocol nor does it give the FBI license to interfere with a standard NTSB investigation that might corrupt it. It was after all the NTSB that created their investigation manual based on many years of experience with this matter, not the FBI. So IF the FBI wanted to conduct a legitimate investigation into these claimed airplane crashes they should defer to the appropriate experts whenever possible. Do you comprehend all that Mr. Apologist with your endless bag of phony excuses?
Eve n if they did, it is part numbers, and just tell what type of aircraft it is. The actual plane number is only in a few places. OH, BTW, one of the places is a riveted tag on the dashboard, for the pilots reference.
Yeah I made all that up because it was really meant to be a joke. Is that serious? Why would I need to source what’s reasonable and logical for any legitimate investigation? Here’s the converse of my statement: When the FBI takes over an investigation from the NTSB and uses the NTSB as its expert assistant it relieves the NTSB from trying to comply with its protocol or insisting that it be able to comply with its protocol and it gives the FBI license to interfere with a standard NTSB investigation in order to try to corrupt it. Now you tell me if the above makes more sense to you than my original statement. Do you also need me to source that the sky is blue on a clear day?
So in your world the fact that parts matches are conducted by the NTSB for nearly every single airplane crash investigation when debris is available is a waste of time and Appendix J only exists as feel good fluff. There seems to be no limit to the number of apologist excuses and idiotic claims posted by those married to the OCT.
Most are identifiable by the number on the tail, and number in the cockpit. Flight logs, and a few serial numbers on the fuselage. Most are also known when they go down.
I usually do unless it's utter garbage (at my discretion of course). Regardless, the above also addresses nothing relevant but that's ok, it's a good excuse for avoiding the point.
Utter garbage, Like what happened to the people on the planes. I'm sure their family's would like to know.
Wally Miller explained how and why he changed his story in 2012. Bollyn wrote about it in his book. He changed his story 180 degrees because the late arriving FBI agent asked him to be "a team player." As to the statements of Brookes and LaGasse, they cannot have their cake and eat it too. From their perspective there are trees between them and the building, and the building is on lower terrain, the view of which is blocked by those same trees. If their claim that the plane they saw hit the building, why did the building early pictures, before the façade fell 15 minutes later, not show damage from an airplane with such a wide wingspan? Why does the path described by the damaged light poles NOT align with the other path? Why does the FDR contradict the official story? Why did April Gallop not see anything from an airliner, including bodies or seats, when she exited the building after the explosion. In short Gamolon, your defense of the official story amounts to a form of mental masturbation. It may feel good, but in the end its a waste of energy. The entire story is contradicted by the facts. There was no airliner that hit the pentagon.
