Seems Trump people totally disregarded Trump's tweets this morning

Only because UK natives are still in control. That will change.

We know that there are no-go zones in Europe. We also know that your politicians like to pretend they don't exist.

They do, and they will grow until the problem can't be refuted anymore. Of course at that point it will be too late.

 

OK. So Donald Trump doesn't support a facist group, even though he used his position to promote and endorse their claims.........

For the record, I doubt that Trump does support this group. I doubt that he even knows who these guys are.

But he saw content that he knew would appeal to his racist audience, and he siezed on it.

 

Trump re-tweeting videos from the group which inspired and may have organised the murder of Jo Cox is as unacceptable as anyone re-tweeting ISIS videos of beheadings. His implicit support for a terrorist group is inflammatory.

 

Oh so through your general application of multiple assumptions Trump is guilty.

Inflammatory? Yes, reality sometimes is.

Here is what is coming for the UK as soon as Islam accounts for about 25% of the population.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/kell...anity-most-persecuted-religion_b_2402644.html

By the way, I like how you censored the rest of my post so you could ignore reality.

 

Not only that but he doubled down on it by attacking Theresa May and refusing to accept that his re-tweet could be seen as support for Britain first once he had learned who they are.

 

25%? Do you even know how many Muslims there are in the UK or how many Muslim refugees are let in?
3 million out of 70 million with fewer than 5k per year. You are ridiculous.

 

Oh you didn't know?

By 2050 about 20% of your population will be Muslim.

That will be about the time the real terror will begin.

http://www.pewforum.org/2017/11/29/europes-growing-muslim-population/

 

I'm kind of glad there's somebody else out there that has independent thought. I was beginning to think that I was defective.

You mentioned this and I recall several months back posting a thread well-thought-out OP and lots of leeway for people to hold on to their political beliefs and religious beliefs for what it's worth. Idealogical Orthodoxy was in the title.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...l-orthodoxy-and-the-pitfalls-there-of.491968/

I may have posted a similar thread on this forum. They were ghost towns.

Seems people don't want to think for themselves because it's difficult. The sad thing is is you don't have to be very intelligent or highly educated on anything. You can be an average person with average intelligence.

It seems no one's interested and discussion that doesn't include lunching salvos get some perceived political enemy.

How very sad.

 

Yeah, sadly enough, you are on to something. I have always insisted on thinking for myself, instead of always just parroting what some other thinker might say. Why waste one's brain? And this is also the reason I go outside of MSM, in order to get other sides to an issue or story. It is so hard today to get more than one side of a story, which ,means of course journalistic standards are basically dead, unless you can find a few honest journalists in some of the papers. I think Greenwald is a close as we get to real journalism today, which shows that a liberal can exercise standards in reporting, but this is so rare today. Of course, Greenwald, being the real deal, had to flee the US. lol. I think any real journalist would have to do so today, which is why we don't have many left. Speaking truth to power will get you in jail. Or even killed, if Hastings was murdered.

 

I like journalists that can admit they're bias. I think it's okay to have a bias. But you have to be cognizant of it. These are the journalists I look for.

I do believe there is journalistic integrity but you have to look hard to find it and you can't be looking through a biased prism.

You have to place your ideas and your beliefs out there to be questioned and if they're found to be incorrect then you shouldn't be so committed to them that nothing will convince you otherwise.

 

Do you think I'm too lazy to read your link or are you incapable of understanding it. Highest predictions ( immigration levels are not still rising and many refugees already here have been refused asylum and are being sent back)...

9.7% is not 20%.

 

OK, then again, he may just be addressing the hyper-reactive leftist snowflakes! I mean it didn't effect me in the slightest, ON THE OTHER HAND, the left seem to hover over his every word and text LMFAO

 

If brains were dynamite Piers Morgan couldn't blow his nose.

 

Not at all. Is that why you used the "zero immigration" lowest possible increase in your response.

The more realistic scenario is the "medium" evaluation, which is close enough to 20%.

Europe is screwed.

 

The final polls were within the margin of error.

http://news.gallup.com/opinion/poll...al-polling-accurately-nails-popular-vote.aspx

Next.

 

Popular vote means nothing. Your gal lost.

 

Why are you changing the subject? Oh......wait.........I know, because you are wrong about the polling data.

 

Journalistic standards involve presenting more than just one side of an issue or story. Do you see that today? If not, then just understand you are listening to or reading a propagandist, and not a genuine journalist. Sometimes there is more than just two sides. If not exposed to it by a so called journalist, then standards are absent, and it is not a journalist.

I can remember when you could not tell if a journalist was left or right. Their standards and integrity was such that you could not tell.

 

Pah. The total number of deaths in the UK from acts of terrorism all year is fewer than one man achieved from a hotel room in Vegas.
The vast majority of UK Muslims are fully integrated into society but you don't want to hear that do you?
You allow fake news from far right groups and biased media sources to cloud your judgement.
Looking at your posting history shows you are obsessed with it.
I think I'm wasting my time here.

 

it certainly isn't common.

I think it's difficult to find really anybody who's Orthodoxy isn't informing there statements.

I am only 35 so I started being really aware of politics and there coloring of things for about 20 years so I don't remember not being able to tell.

 

Yeah you go with that. Good luck.

 

Understandable. I remember news from the 50s and 60s on TV, as it was a big deal to watch it as a family. And most in journalism were liberal in those days, but I could not tell it by their coverage and reporting. Today, within a few minutes, there is no doubt as to what the person is. But worse, that bias permeates their journalism. So we get editiorials passed off as the news. And one side of a story. The side that matches the journalist's partisanship. Or, they are purveyors of the gov't story, never questioning anything about it. Even when it looks to be pure propaganda. And it is the rule rather than the exception today. In order to get the other side of a story, you can go to places like RT where genuine liberals will present it, question it, and so on. But now our gov't and MSM portrays those americans on RT as being russian agents. lol. In order to try to crush other sides of a story. This is post 1984 crap. An attempt to control info.

 

The more I get to know people that grew up in your era the more I realize how different my era is.

 

The fact Trump uses twitter as an end run around the media is sheer genius. Lefties are wetting themselves because Trump does not need the media.

 

It is my opinion, for what it's worth, that we are living in a Post 1984 America. The control, coming both from gov't and corporations is astounding. People do not notice it today, younger people, because this is all that they know, and even they have been frog boiled somewhat. Information is being controlled now, not by some single entity, but by the self interests of both gov't and corporations. Or what we used to call the powers that be. And that information control is solidifying with each passing day. The latest is the war against RT and now the chinese news agency. It seems that the chinese news agency's effort at presenting a more favorable side of china to the West is destroying american minds, and our gov't and MSM are coming to our rescue!! If our people are gonna get conditioned by propaganda, you can bet your arse it ain't a gonna be russian or chinese propaganda! American propaganda is king !