Seems War In Ukraine Has Restarted

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  1. freddy62

    freddy62 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In a way I think the Washington would be happy to see the EU printing more Euros the way the US prints Dollars.
     
  2. Merwen

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    I found a live map in an effort to try to understand just where everyone is but it;s still a bit confusing to me:

    http://liveuamap.com/#
     
  3. Merwen

    Merwen Well-Known Member

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    It's about time that there's more currency available for transactions, though. IMO the money supply was deliberately kept too low for years.
     
  4. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think Washington did tell them, and for Japan to print its money too, and they are doing it. It was the only way they could keep the dollar from collapsing. I don't know why or how, I'm just repeating what the economic expert Craig Roberts said. Everything has become nothing more than a deck of cards...that's why China, Russia and India are buying gold. It might also be the reason nations are asking for their gold back..
     
  5. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hey what about the people in Crimea and what they want? The Nazis are killing the people in the Donbas for being Russians, do you think they would have left the people in Crimea alone when they were even more Russian than in the Donbas?

    When the people in Crimea went to Kiev to protest against the Maidans, some were killed and three hundred were tortured and harrassed. In Odessa they were burned and hacked to death...just for going against the regime that was put in by American Ambassador Pyatt, and his girl friend; Assistant Secretary of State Nuland.

    Look Ukraine was created as a multi cultural nation. It consists of different languages. The educated language is Russian and the language in the West is Ukrainian. The language most people speak are a mixture of Russian and Ukrainian. It's tends to be more Russian in the East, and more Ukrainian in the West.

    There are also enclaves and towns that speak other languages...such as Hungarian, Romanian, Greek, etc. These people want to hold on to their cultural identity..and they have every right to do so. When a law was passed by the junta in Kiev that all business must be conducted in Ukrainian, it not only upset the ethnic Russians, it upset others as well...since they too were conducting their business in Russian.

    It's amazing that this kind of government is supported by people such as the Jews and Poles, since it wasn't too long ago that the Nazis destroyed the Yiddish culture, and tried to destroy the Polish one as well. Pope John Paul II mentioned in his memoirs, that he did everything to preserve it and not to let the Nazis destroy that which was so dear to so many people.
     
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    The present day area of Russia has been invaded many times during history. Not just WW II. The constant invasions makes the Ruskies feel that if they invade all the neighbors they are somehow buffering themselves from invasion. Here are the major invasions of Russia, and there were a lot of them: England invaded in 1918 and Germany in 1915. Japan invaded in 1904. In 1854 France and England invaded. Ottomans invaded in 1853. Napoleon invaded in 1812. Sweden invaded Russia in 1707. Poland invaded in 1609. In 1571 the Ottoman Crimeans invaded. In 1382 the Golden Horde invaded. In 1403 it was Timur. In 1237 it was the Mongols.
     
  7. AlpinLuke

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    If Soviet leaders made a Referendum to ask to Crimean people if they wanted to accept to see Crimea moved to Ukraine ...
     
  8. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Soviet Union was an 'internationalist' entity, so it didn't believe in nations. When Khruschev gave Crimea to be administered by Ukraine, no one thought anything of it.
     
  9. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here are some videos of what is going on in the Donbas. This murderous attack, was presented as a humanitarian necessity at the UNSC by none other than the OSCE. The presenter in the video is an American from Texas, and he broadcasts everyday asking the American people to please do something to stop Washington from supporting the Nazis.

    As for the UK Ambassador Rycroft, his hands are as bloodied as those of Pontius Pilate. He completely ignored the bombings and killings of civilians by Kiev, and said it was the rebels who were trying to provoke a Ukrainian response rather than the other way around. The second video is the woman who lived in the house that was damaged, and who lost her eleven year old daughter and her husband. I don't know how anyone can look at her lovely little boy and not want to kill the animals who did this.

    An Orthodox Elder told me that you can tell something is demonic if it makes you sick to your stomach. Well the lies my government and its compliant allies in the EU spit out, literally sicken me to my stomach.



    [video=youtube;bQnvyhfZQl0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQnvyhfZQl0&feature=youtu.be[/video]

    [video=youtube;8chgelOvsN8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=163&v=8chgelOvsN8[/video]

    http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/remember-d-day-invasion-today-d-donbass/ri7792[/QUOTE]
     
  10. AlpinLuke

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    That's the source of the problem ... without that step, Crimea would have never been part of Ukraine. And if Crimea wasn't part of Ukraine ...
     
  11. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Where did you get the idea that the Russians want to invade their neighbors in order to buffer themselves? Seems like the Washington propagandists are working overtime. The people in Donbas voted to unite with Russia, and Russia said no. Transnistria asked to be united with Russia, and they haven't responded.

    Just because the Eastern Europeans are fearful that part of their population might want to unite with Russia, doesn't mean that Russia wants them to?
     
  12. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know this is off topic, but I read in two sources that Kerry didn't have a bike accident, but was shot by ISIS terrorists. Does anyone know anything about it?
     
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    I am willing to believe that Russia does not want to expand unnecessarily.

    In Putin's interview video, he took pains to explain that in Crimea he stopped at the river as that was a clear geographical boundary.

    Clear geographical boundaries prevent many border disputes.
     
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    No...he was not shot! LOL!!!

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    It was probably a bike accident, as he had a hip replacement close to the same leg that broke in the accident and also has been stiff from arthritis and overexercise.

    People with hip replacements generally aren't supposed to bend their legs at an angle over 90 degrees (a right angle) at the hip, and usually have to ride a special bike that allows this. If he was violating that 90 degree rule and pedaling hard his hip could have gone out on him.

    Before reading about his hip operation, though, I have to admit, I wondered myself if someone had sabotaged his bike ride.
     
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    I think journalists from the Italian newspaper Il Corriere della Sera conducted a great interview with Putin. It comes as no surprise that MSM completely ignored the most important points from the interview. I’ll mention just two.

    http://www.rusemb.org.uk/foreignpolicy/3184

     
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    Modern Ukraine.

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  18. Balancer

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    [video=youtube;s1G6Mp-ddzU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1G6Mp-ddzU[/video]

    6 tank shells of the Ukrainian army got to a residential building in Donetsk (the capital of the self-proclaimed DPR).
     
  19. Jeannette

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    The US war on Ukraine has not stopped.since the US started it.
     
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    When Crimea was joined to Ukraine by Khrushev he didn't ask people. It was fine because it some rules and papers can be understood the way it was right.
    When Crimea was separated from USSR together with Ukraine - noone asked crimeans, although they had their protests. It was fine because it some rules and papers can be understood the way it was right.
    The first time someone asked crimean people about what they want - was the referendum which is considered by the western democracies to be a crime against the democracy. :)

    Speaking of separation of Ukraine btw. We can easily take Russia as modern Ukraine and modern Donbass and Crimea at the place of Ukraine claiming its independence of the USSR... Russians had every right to take their armors, planes, rockets and whatever in order to cut as much land from the ukrainians as they definetely could... But for some reason russians didn't act then like the ukrainians act now and western democracies regard these almost identical cases very double standard way.
     
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    Ukrainian army again shelled residential areas in the Donbass. The strike of heavy artillery (prohibited by the Minsk agreements) have been Gorlovka.
     
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    Also the Ukrainian army were again shelled residential areas of Donetsk.

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    Ukraine. The young terrorist inspects its position in Gorlovka.

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