Sharyl Attkisson Dredges up the Ukraine Story Democrats Don't Want to Talk About

I remain so puzzled at the instant pronouncement of guilty against Donald Trump (given they desired him to be impeached exactly 18 minutes after being sworn into office, yet the disdain for the story told about Ukraine and declared debunked by Democrats. Are they that smart that in 18 minutes they pronounce an American president guilty yet from these distant lands, spanning many time zones, they can deliberate and declare Ukraine totally innocent of any and all wrong doings? I say no, they can't do that.

So study this article by a good solid journalist. Care to comment?


Matt Vespa @mvespa1
Posted: Nov 21, 2019 11:07 AM
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattv...ebf8031cef6d4d2983b40f098ffa5af&recip=6763200

 

Look at that. Robert pushing Russian Propaganda.

Did he WATCH the Fiona Hill testimony today??

 

Robert supplied in the article a link to Politico that in early January of 2017, gave proof of the Ukraine meddling with the election. Did you forget to read it prior to Trump being sworn in?

 

The Russia/Trump “theory” about what “really” happened in 2016. Talk about Russian and Trump collusion.

 

It was debunked that Trump cooperated with or was involved with Russian election meddling. BTW, Democrats shall not meddle in the next election using impeachment as a tool. Shall not work and never has.

 

Oh, and if this is about Russia, why are Democrats focused on Ukraine? Get them to explain that to you.

 

That "Ukraine meddling" consisted of exposing Manafort for his involvement in Ukraine corruption...actions which lead to him having to quit as campaign manager for Trump's campaign.


You remember Manafort. He's the guy in jail...

 

You seen so confused. Maybe you should pay more attention

 

Actually it was not. In fact the Mueller report explained and detailed the fact that the Trump campaign encouraged the Russian meddling, willfully accepted it, and even strategized around it. You've read the report correct?

 

Exactly. It was a way to undermine the Trump campaign; even though it was totally unrelated.

 

He (Manafort) is a CRIMINAL...currently in jail. Did you miss that?

 

Had that been true, Shifty britches would have impeached Trump. And you know he would have.

 

Oh god no. Read Politico. The link is in my article.

 

Not relevant to my point; is it?

If he hadn't joined the campaign, he'd be walking around free.

They only went after him in order to make Trump look bad. This is known.

 

The Ukraine meddling in the 2016 election is and has been debunked conspiracy propagated by Putin. The impeachment hearings tied the ribbon on that and anyone still dumping this garbage on forums is another Putin patsy.

 

I suppose China also interfering is Russian propaganda. Basically and evidence counter to the dem clown show narrative is 'Russian propaganda' designed to divide Americans. I think the dem clown show is doing Putin's bidding very well.

 

LOL, debunked by not having an investigation. Aren't investigations important according to the dem clown show?

 

I'm sure he did, but unlike some- he is able to tell the difference between bullshit and apple butter.
Given that outrageous and total abandonment of principle by the people choreographing the current circus, that's not too hard to do.

Politco article-
"Donald Trump wasn’t the only presidential candidate whose campaign was boosted by officials of a former Soviet bloc country.

Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.

"Donald Trump wasn’t the only presidential candidate whose campaign was boosted by officials of a former Soviet bloc country.

Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found."

 

Note the date of publication.

By KENNETH P. VOGEL and DAVID STERN

01/11/2017 05:05 AM EST
Politico is Russian? And yes. So what?

1. Donald Trump wasn’t the only presidential candidate whose campaign was boosted by officials of a former Soviet bloc country.

Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.

A Ukrainian-American operative who was consulting for the Democratic National Committee met with top officials in the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington in an effort to expose ties between Trump, top campaign aide Paul Manafort and Russia, according to people with direct knowledge of the situation.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446

 

I have screen shots where Mueller says in clear terms, there was no collusion between Trump, his campaign and the Russians.

Line 7 in the Mueller report text ... To wit: The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in it's election interference activities. Man, it's there in black and white.

 

Dude...you're being disingenuous..intentionally it would appear

Mueller did not find that Trump "colluded" (a term he noted had no legal meaning...and he was dealing with legalities) or "conspired with" the Russians for very specific reasons. The burden of proof there is very high and much of what would have provided that was part of the lying for which numerous actors were indicted.

He DID however detail and STATE explicitly that the Trump campaign ENCOURAGED, ACCEPTED, and STRATEGIZED AROUND those Russian provided wikileaks dumps

 

I am so damned sick of personal attacks. I wish those of you in full attack mode, took a day to reply and thought things over first.

I showed the screen shot. You really are disputing Mueller and not me.

 

What your article says is that Ukraine was trying to protect itself from RUSSIA"S hand picked favorite to be president of the USA Dirty Donald who had already shown disdain for the Ukraine????Wouldn't they be idiots to do otherwise and not pan Russia's hand picked favorite for president.After all RUSSIA WAS OCCUPYING PART OF THEIR COUNTRY

 

And yet, it is Donald Trump that has given the most help to Ukraine and crapped all over Russia. Donald was warned about Ukraine. When they swapped presidents, Donald ultimately liked them more. So he armed them.

 

No. Congress is who passed the bill arming the Ukraine -Trump tried to hold that up and did not release the funds until after the whistleblower submitted his complaint. Trump FanBoys seem to be fuzzy in the timeline.