She Was Denied Citizenship for Working in Legal Cannabis.

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Exactly. @kriman is creating strawman arguments from what I wrote. Not only that, his argument was to cite studies to support his advocating prohibition. When I told him that my source reveals the studies are not conclusive, but, no matter what the studies show, it is not an argument for prohibition. then he tries to pin me down on a claim I didn't make.
     
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    . . . mushrooms are not plants. They are fungi. Fungi are not plants.
     
  3. Joe knows

    Joe knows Well-Known Member

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    It’s a natural growth, you knew what I meant
     
  4. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    There are conservatives and liberals who have their respective libertarian aspects, and i wasn't referring to libertarianism, in it's purity. Modern conservatism, these days, has a libertarian element. It has come to be known as neoliberalism, or, at least, it is a part of it. I was indicating that your view is inconsistent with the common libertarian side of conservatism.

    You've made a claim,

    And when they ended prohibition in certain states of all so called plants we found sky rocketing rates of overdose, homelessness, and crime


    and so, please source it. I need to make sure your claim is consistent with the data being reported because, if you don't mind, I don't take anyone's word for it on an internet forum.
     
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  5. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It was an insult. I responded by making fun of your insult. You are the one who made big deal out of it. Get over it.

    Like I said, just keep personalities out of it. Just respond to the words on the computer.
    There is nothing inconclusive about them. There are numerous studies and they all come to the same conclusion. Marijuana destroys brain cells. This is especially true in younger people when their brains are still developing.

    Show me a single study which states otherwise. Please show me a study. I can hardly wait because I cannot find one.
     
  6. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Nice backpedal.

    And no, I'm not really talking about going backwards on a bicycle.

    It's an expression.
    Learn to interpret the English language as words were intended.

    Expressions are not to be interpreted literally.

    DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
    You're repeating yourself.
     
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  7. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I did. Your words claimed the impossible. Not my problem you have problems with the English language.
    It's an expression.[/QUOTE]
    You insulted and I made fun of your insult. Get over it.
    as you have been.

    Show me a single study which says marijuana does not affect the brain. The fact that you cannot produce such a study should be convincing when there are numerous studies to the contrary.
     
  8. Maquiscat

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    Now it does show where there are negative long term effects for use prior to age 25. And that's not been denied here, unless I missed someone making that claim.

    There is also this for your edification. Supporting reference citations in the video itself:
     
  9. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    According to Patricio, all the studies are inconclusive.
     
  10. Maquiscat

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    And? I'm not here to confirm or deny what you or PDS claim. You asked for something, and I provided it.
     
  11. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have no idea what you provided.
     
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    The evidence that marijuana use does not have long term negative affects on adult brains after the age of 25.
     
  13. Cybred

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    Drugs don't harm people, people harm people.
     
  14. Joe knows

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    Yeah… overdoses and addiction those aren’t real things at all
     
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    I believe his point is overdoses and addictions don't occur without human intervention.
     
  16. Joe knows

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    I think he’s trying to turn it on guns but I’m sure he’ll clarify.
     
  17. Cybred

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    Yep, the hypocrisy is staggering.
     
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    Not hypocrisy at all. Guns don’t cause addiction or overdose
     
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    and to add to this, overdoses in 2021 caused 98,000 deaths in the same year gun related deaths was 48,800. So your advocacy has killed more people than mine. Enjoy
     
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    Nope, compare intentional murder with drugs as opposed to guns. Plus what I was referring to was that you guys state gun control doesn't work, why you would you think that drug control would?
     
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    After reducing drug sentences and charges on users and dealers on all drugs Oregon has gotten worse. They only done this in 2020 and seen a huge increase in overdoses and usage. Hate to tell you but it did work to some extent and proves true there for sure. Guns and drugs are not even close to relatable.
     
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    Not quite.
    ‘It’s crazy out there’: The reasons behind Oregon’s deepening drug crisis - OPB

    For years, Oregonians have reported some of the highest rates of substance use disorder in the nation on federal surveys. The opioid crisis is nearly three decades old and use of methamphetamine, long Oregon’s deadliest drug, has not abated. At the same time, the state consistently has among the lowest treatment availability in the country, according to surveys conducted by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.
     
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    90 years ago, the American people were intelligent enough to understand that drug prohibition is a stupid and evil policy. Now they are not that intelligent.
     
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    None of which negates from the fact that things have gotten worse since they decriminalized literally everything. 62% of Oregon now favor reversing the measure that decriminalized drugs.

    https://www.oregonlive.com/politics...lete-repeal-new-poll-find.html?outputType=amp

    it literally blows me away that someone would say hey look we have a drug problem. Why not make them legal and see what happens.
     
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    The transitive grammar of "more" and "less"?
     

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