Sheriff Joe Arpaio research team finds Obama birth record definitely forged.

Discussion in 'Other/Miscellaneous' started by Pollycy, Jul 19, 2012.

You are viewing posts in the Conspiracy Theory forum. PF does not allow misinformation. However, please note that posts could occasionally contain content in violation of our policies prior to our staff intervening.

  1. SFJEFF

    SFJEFF New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2010
    Messages:
    30,682
    Likes Received:
    256
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Very first Hit:
    http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/ineligible.asp- concluding that this Birther lie was of course false.

    The fifth hit was this:
    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012...-doesnt-admit-birth-certificate-is-a-forgery/

    The rest of course are Birther blogs parroting the same headline over and over.

    If your point is that Birther are very comfortable about lieing about what people said- then well done.
     
  2. SFJEFF

    SFJEFF New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2010
    Messages:
    30,682
    Likes Received:
    256
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Ah but you confuse those who have 'doubts' with Birthers.

    While birthers and Obama haters correlate strongly, it appears that birthers and conspiracy theorists do as well. I think it requires a predisposition to conspiracy-style thinking and a predisposition to disliking Obama to trigger a full-on birther response.

    There are normal Americans who might have some doubts- but only the whacky fringe are Birthers.
     
  3. BullsLawDan

    BullsLawDan New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2010
    Messages:
    5,723
    Likes Received:
    98
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Anyone with a brain rejects those findings. They are, quite frankly, nonsensical.
    So what? People are stupid. Americans are, by and large, uninformed idiots.
    Let me be clear: Yes. Anyone who doubts that President Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961 is "insane," an "idiot," a "moron," or a combination of those things. Period.
     
  4. BullsLawDan

    BullsLawDan New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2010
    Messages:
    5,723
    Likes Received:
    98
    Trophy Points:
    0
    You know, I'm still waiting for a birther to explain to me why Republicans (who controlled the relevant Hawaiian offices in 2008, when Obama released his birth certificate and Hawaii verified his Hawaiian birth) would conspire to elect a Democrat.
     
  5. Pollycy

    Pollycy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2008
    Messages:
    29,922
    Likes Received:
    14,183
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Interesting, but not surprising, Jeff... not any of it. Something horrible has happened to we Americans in the last three and half years I had never seen before in my life -- not even during the hateful Vietnam War years. We have become so divided and hateful toward each other that it is almost indescribable.

    Many of you on the Left geninely hate, despise, and loathe many of us on the Right, and I assure you, the feelings are mutual over here, too. It is as though you liberals would rather see the country left bankrupt, insolvent, and turned into a listless, Welfare-State ruin than to cooperate with us on the Right. And, in fairness, it must seem to you that we on the Right are filled with hatred for poor people, brimming with racial hatred for Obama, and totally committed only to perverting the country so that we make the rich richer! If both of those things are true, then both of them are WRONG, Jeff, and have to be corrected, somehow! Two years ago it could have been possible to rectify all this, but now I just don't see how we can ever come together again.

    So here we are at a rock-solid impasse, in the middle of a "recovery" that has helped comparatively few but investment bankers and stock brokers. You blame us, and we blame you, and we can't even agree on whether or not Obama is telling us the truth about so many things in his past, starting with his birth! What a hell of a mess this is! After Vietnam, it took this country over ten years to heal and for Americans to come together. Trust me, this is worse, and I don't see any end to it, either. So, on to November, on toward national bankruptcy, and even more growing mutual hatred. I have never felt more like a man without a country....
     
  6. paco

    paco New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2009
    Messages:
    18,293
    Likes Received:
    234
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Food for thought: Ken Bennett, Secretary of State and chief of elections of Arizona, has not yet added Obama's name to the state ballot for November. He said that he would once this was all cleared up, and so far, it doesn't look like it has been cleared up yet. If it isn't cleared up by November, well...Arizona voters can always write-in Obama's name. Or maybe Bennett simply won't put Obama's name on the ballots in Arpaio's district?
     
  7. Goldwater

    Goldwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2009
    Messages:
    11,825
    Likes Received:
    148
    Trophy Points:
    63
    How f'ing retarded are some of you?.......
     
  8. Brewskier

    Brewskier Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2011
    Messages:
    48,910
    Likes Received:
    9,642
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Like, on a 1 to "Obama is a fiscal conservative" scale?
     
  9. Lunchboxxy

    Lunchboxxy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2010
    Messages:
    6,732
    Likes Received:
    101
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Of course Obama's name will be on the ballot come November.
     
  10. SFJEFF

    SFJEFF New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2010
    Messages:
    30,682
    Likes Received:
    256
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Oh I don't think so. I think frankly it is just our politicians and the internet that make it seem so. I have seen this transition happening over the last 20-30 years. Where it started I don't claim to be able to nail down, but pretty much each administration the rhetoric has grown more pitched and the oppostion less willing to cooperate. Reagan and Tip O'Neil would battle each other during the day and go have a drink together at night- it wasn't personal.

    It became very personal under Newt Gingrich and Bill Clinton- without pointing fingers- that is where I would say it probably started. But i don't think we Americans are as divided as our politicians.

    I think the rhetoric is way ramped up on the internet. Most Conservatives don't hate the left, most Liberals don't hate the Right. I certainly don't- heck that would make family gatherings pretty tense! Both of these are the positions and rhetoric of the extreme right and the extreme left. i happen to think that 99% of all Americans want life to be better in America for all Americans- we just disagree on the correct path to get there.


    Well the whole issue about Obama's 'past' I think is a great example of the problem. The extreme right want to scare America about Obama- they want this election to be about how he is not a real American. The extreme left tried to do that about Bush.

    My position is that all of this crap about Obama's supposed past is BS- look at the record of his administration! Any voter who cannot decide whether or not to vote for Obama based entirely upon his Presidential record is an idiot. I felt the same way about people who muttered about Bush's supposed cocaine use- after his first term in office- why would anyone be bringing that up, when his record as President was there to judge on?

    A significant minority of Americans have some doubt as to where Obama was born- but they are not Birthers- they are not marching on Washington- they don't even show up for local Birther events- Americans really are ignoring Birthers and this whole issue- because Amerca cares about the economy- not this nonsense.
     
  11. Lunchboxxy

    Lunchboxxy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2010
    Messages:
    6,732
    Likes Received:
    101
    Trophy Points:
    63
    More of a "I have a functioning brain" to a "I actually believe Obama was born in Kenya" scale. You know, on topic.
     
  12. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 15, 2009
    Messages:
    47,987
    Likes Received:
    6,805
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No it's NOT
    Yes it IS
    No it's NOT
    Yes it IS
    No it Snot ... Whatever.All Hawaii had to do is have some lamebrain paid official
    insist Obama's Long Form WAS Valid and btw Hawaii has some of the highest level of
    privacy protection.Yeah that and a few bucks will probably get a Tourist a cruddy
    pair of el cheapo sunglasses. I guess Shariff Joe could just ask ... Where's the Microfiche.
    Or why did the new Governor { Abercrombie } LIE and seem confounded by his inability to
    do his own due diligence and find the doggone thing.The Drat Birth Certificate.
    Why was all that time wasted on on a COLB where it was Lied that a COLB is no
    different than a Long Form and the State no longer gives out Long Form.World Net Daily
    proved that to be a Lie.
     
  13. Goldwater

    Goldwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2009
    Messages:
    11,825
    Likes Received:
    148
    Trophy Points:
    63
    No...someone is retarded if they think Arpaio's little sentimental journey into stupidland will harm Obama in any way.
     
  14. leftysergeant

    leftysergeant New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2012
    Messages:
    8,827
    Likes Received:
    60
    Trophy Points:
    0
    But it is still based on what a fat pig with an attitude pulled out of his shorts.

    Arpio is not better-qualified that the FBI to examine a docuiment. Probably less so.

    He is also unfit to conduct an investigation, since the dumb SOB sent his team there with the presumption that Obama was lying from the get-go.

    Reality and Arpio have mutal restraining orders against each other.
     
  15. SFJEFF

    SFJEFF New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2010
    Messages:
    30,682
    Likes Received:
    256
    Trophy Points:
    0
    For Birthers hope springs eternal- regardless of what people actually say:

    Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett satisfied Obama was born in United States

    Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett (R), who earlier this month requested more information from Hawaii on President Obama’s birth certificate, has gotten the confirmation he needed.
    U.S. President Barack Obama's birth certificate that was released by the White House in Washington April 27, 2011. (REUTERS/The White House/Handout)

    “Late yesterday, our office received the 'verification in-lieu of certified copy' from officials within the Hawaii Department of Health that we requested in March,” Bennett said in a statement released Wednesday afternoon. “They have officially confirmed that the information in the copy of the Certificate of Live Birth for the President matches the original record in their files.”

    Bennett also defended his decision to request the additional information, which drew massive national headlines. The secretary of state, who is planning to run for governor in 2014, has repeatedly said that he is not a “birther” who believes Obama was born abroad. He was merely answering the requests of over a thousand Arizonans who wanted Obama’s birth certificate examined.

    “At the request of numerous constituents, I merely asked Hawaiian officials to verify the information contained within President Obama’s original birth certificate,” he said in the statement. “They have complied with the request and I consider the matter closed.”
     
  16. SFJEFF

    SFJEFF New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2010
    Messages:
    30,682
    Likes Received:
    256
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Lol Birthers....
     
  17. Goldwater

    Goldwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2009
    Messages:
    11,825
    Likes Received:
    148
    Trophy Points:
    63
    This is why birthers are retards.

    Any President, is fully investigated by the CIA, NSA, and FBI whenever those agencies feel a person has the slightest possibiliy they might become President. It's a matter of national security that has widened in scope since J Edger Hoover started doing it.

    These investigations are not a matter of public record, but it makes perfect sense they would do it.

    Obama was born in Hawaii, and Arpaio doersn't mind playing the fool for GOP electioneering purposes, because someone with nothing to lose would be a perfect court jester for this assignment.
     
  18. leftysergeant

    leftysergeant New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2012
    Messages:
    8,827
    Likes Received:
    60
    Trophy Points:
    0
    World Nut Daily is right about as often as the typical Ouija Board reader.
     
  19. paco

    paco New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2009
    Messages:
    18,293
    Likes Received:
    234
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Source, please.
     
  20. fiddlerdave

    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2010
    Messages:
    19,083
    Likes Received:
    2,706
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I am all for keeping Obama's name off of Arizona's ballot.

    The only logical recovery from a piece of absurd actions would be for the courts to deny ANY of Arizona's electoral votes to ANYONE, including Romney!

    Wouldn't it be lovely irony for Sheriff Joe to actually be instrumental for Obama's re-election in a close race? :lol:
     
  21. SFJEFF

    SFJEFF New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2010
    Messages:
    30,682
    Likes Received:
    256
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Rational thought.
     
  22. fiddlerdave

    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2010
    Messages:
    19,083
    Likes Received:
    2,706
    Trophy Points:
    113
    :lol: Do YOU even begin to understand that it is NOT a coincidence that about the same fraction of voters admit they would NEVER vote for a black person to be president?

    The MAIN POINT of Birtherism is to give racists a public non-racial excuse to hate Obama.
     
  23. Lunchboxxy

    Lunchboxxy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2010
    Messages:
    6,732
    Likes Received:
    101
    Trophy Points:
    63
    It's incredibly safe to say that if someone thinks that Obama was born in Kenya, but has never questioned the citizenship of any other president or presidential candidate, that person is a god(*)(*)(*)(*) racist.
     
  24. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 15, 2009
    Messages:
    47,987
    Likes Received:
    6,805
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No actually the Obama Presidential Handlers at this time and in Spring 4 years
    ago were actually out and about running stories and spreading campaign gossip
    of how " Moderate " Obama was.He was NO Liberal.He was Not a Liberal
    and how dare anyone call him that.The word " Liberal " was actually OFF LIMITS
    I swear ta God.
    The word " Moderate " was used in explaining Obama throughout the Mainstream Media.
     
  25. SFJEFF

    SFJEFF New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2010
    Messages:
    30,682
    Likes Received:
    256
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Sometimes I almost feel bad when I point out how incredibly egrigrious your lies are....have you heard of Google?
    http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...AAIBAJ&pg=5026,1192399&dq=obama+liberal&hl=en
    "McCain brands Obama a Liberal"

    http://www.newwest.net/topic/article/untruths_about_obama_only_hurting_gop/C530/L37/
    Obama has more liberal views than Stirman

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2004468912_apobamaboren.html
    Democratic Rep. Dan Boren of Oklahoma said Tuesday Barack Obama is "the most liberal senator

    http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/29/getting-to-know-them/
    The combination of having a sense of who Senator Obama is and yet wanting to know more can be a problem for a high-flying candidate. Senator Obama is seen as a liberal

    Article after article about how 'liberal' Barack Obama was.....for a word that was 'off limits'......lots of media broke that rule...
     

Share This Page