Shock poll: 40% of Americans are unsure of Obama's citizenship.

you're wrong again, i get a feeling he's completely sincere, as did most voting americans in 2008 and 2012

it was republican candidates that didn't make the cut, because people knew they weren't sincere

 

Obama is the liar in cheif. He lied about health care, IRS, NSA, fast and furious, and about loving America and being the most transparent presidency in history. Obama is total failure at everything both foreign and domestic. McCain I may agree with, but Romney was not willing to take Obama to task about his failure in Benghazi and people rightly percieved that he did not have the killer instinct to be president. But Obama does not have it either, unless you count empowering our enemies to do as they wish.

 

Maybe not Fox News per se, but conservative groups for sure. I heard on I believe CNN or MSNBC that for a while Fox News used the "he's not an American" citizen argument, however they dropped it a certain point.

 

show me a president that didn't lie, you can't, so get real

by the way, i still have my same medical insurance and doctor

 

because there wasn't one, if you want to see a real failure, watch this:

[video=youtube;32_uWMBmphM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32_uWMBmphM[/video]


the final death toll was 241 american servicemen: 220 marines, 18 sailors and 3 soldiers

it was the deadliest single-day death toll for the us marine corps, since the battle of iwo jima in wwII

 

I don't go searching for child porn like Birthers do.

yet you are unable to provide any evidence to support your slander- like I said:

Nothing in your posts even suggests you prefer reality.

Clearly you have drunk the Birther koolaid and believe all of the Konspiracy dreck that they sling- and that you happily pick up and sling too.

You can have whatever idiotic opinions you want about President Obama.

I am just pointing out the obvious-

Birthers love to slander the dead.

They can't fight back. They can't sue anyone for slander.

Which is why Birthers slander Obama's mother.

Because they are cowards who enjoy slinging mud at the President dead mother.

 

And Congress- rather than calling for an investigation to determine why the President was at fault- supported the President.

Contrasting what happened in Beirut versus what happened in Benghazi is very interesting.

 

Are you offended? You sound offended. Just saying.

 

yea, we learned better than to overstaff troublesome, foreign locations, in order to mitigate possible damages

 

JEFF, in short whether Obama was born in the US or China, makes little difference to me now, agnostic I would say is the correct definition, maybe concerned, but an idiot simply wouldn't care. Those that follow politics, even if from the psychological aspects, its difficult to understand how a Constitutional Graduate from Harvard could author the policies that ha has.

 

That's it really. If he acted like he knew what America is about, that number would be a lot lower.

 

obama is what america is all about, but he just doesn't fit into the usual american idiot, mold

[video=youtube;eKgPY1adc0A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A[/video]

 

Thanks for proving what liberals think of America and Americans.

 

it's not just liberals, people that have an education, know it's true

[video=youtube;7_pw8duzGUg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_pw8duzGUg[/video]

 

But, Obama was supposed to be so new, so honest, so ethical, so "progressive", and so TRANSPARENT! Instead, he's an even worse liar than Nixon was. Nixon lied about the Watergate hotel break-in. It was a crime, but even at that, it did no damage to the country, per se. Obama, however, LIED THROUGH HIS DRIPPING TEETH about Obamacare, and that horrible lie affects 16% of the entire economy of the United States!

Next, you'd probably like to say, "Well, "W" Bush lied about WMD's in Iraq!" Bush was far too trusting in the intelligence reports he got from all the "alphabet agencies" who all fed him report after report that Saddam did have weapons of mass destruction. Bad on Bush, but how could you libs call that a lie? Stupid and gullible -- yes! A lie? The people who did a rotten job of finding out the truth of WMD's before dumping their info on Bush were the ones who ****ed that whole thing up!

Now. You've smeared every President of the United States, saying that no one can name a single one of them who wasn't a liar! Got a link or any proof for that bold statement, or was your slander just another example of dujac's signature one-liner, worthless utterances that say nothing...?

 

My dear General rahl, Forum Commander of Obama's Praetorian Guard, please understand that I don't care where your wonderous Führer Obama was born. I'm thoroughly convinced that he would have been as big a moron as he is now no matter whether he had been born in Hawaii, Kenya, or the ****ing North Pole.

It no longer matters, and as I've already said, I'm happy to see him right there in the Oval Office, where he ****s up everything he touches! Perhaps the monumental mistake that was the election, and re-election of Barack Obama will serve as a lasting lesson to the country never to put an incompetent, worthless nothingness like that in the Presidency again!

 

Wow. Kind of like how so many believed that Iraq was in bed with Al Quaida and Hussein was involved in 9-11 before the start of the Iraq war.

RW propaganda is powerful stuff and it is very effective. We see that proved here every day.

 

The only thing I care about is that Americans learn from the true nature of the pathological mental disease we've elected and re-elected to the White House. The damage that Obama has done to this country won't be fully realized for years to come, but you'll see it first and foremost when the really horrible aspects of Obamacare take effect -- long AFTER Obama never has to fight through a Congressional election again.

He's the worst president in the history of this country and a pathological LIAR -- worse than Carter, worse than Nixon, and yes, even worse than Frankie Roosevelt and Lyndon Johnson! That's saying a hell of a lot! So, yes I care about having a thing like Obama as our President. But, no longer can I make myself care about where this deceitful, America-hating scumbag was born. We're WAY beyond that now....

 

he is

“The Obama administration was more transparent .. than we were in the Bush administration,” – Michael Hayden, NSA Director under Bush

not even close, nixon paid burglars

 

I don't go searching for child porn like Birthers do.

You are unable to provide any evidence to support your slander- like I said:


You can have whatever idiotic opinions you want about President Obama.

I am just pointing out the obvious-

Birthers love to slander the dead.

They can't fight back. They can't sue anyone for slander.

Which is why Birthers slander Obama's mother.

Because they are cowards who enjoy slinging mud at the President dead mother.

 

That of course is a completely different issue than the idiocy that Birthers pursue.

What you object to are his political policies- and while all Birthers also object to anything President Obama does, they also make up or lap up Conspiracy theories to pretend he actually is not President.

 

Anyone using the term Fuhrer to refer to a legally elected American President clearly has partisan goggles so tainted that anything else that is said is rendered ridiculous.

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What I have learned from all of this is that Obama derangement syndrome is as bad as Bush derangement syndrome.

If Republicans ever manage to elect a President again- I will be more even handed as to how I look at his or her presidency.

 

Every single one is harder to find examples of with a short search- but a significant enough sample to make it likely that every single one did? yes

We know about Nixon, Clinton, and Bush.

Some of our most popular presidents told the biggest whoppers, say historians, including Benjamin Ginsberg, author of "The American Lie: Government by the People and other Political Fables."

http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/24/politics/presidents-lie/
President James Polk lied to Congress in 1846 -- claiming Mexico had invaded the United States -- because he was determined to take the Southwest from Mexico. That lie led to the Mexican-American War, Contosta says.
President William McKinley lied to the American public in 1898 when he insisted that Spain had blown up the USS Maine warship in Havana Harbor, Cuba, although he had no evidence. That lie led to the Spanish-American war.

"President Dwight Eisenhower denied that the United States was flying U-2 spy planes over the Soviet Union, until the Soviets shot down one of the planes, capturing the pilot, and he was forced to admit the truth," Contosta says.

President Andrew Jackson foxily campaigned on a lie insisting that he was for a "judicious tariff" which to Southern ears in the 1828 presidential election meant a low tariff. After Jackson was elected, though, Congress passed a high tariff that prompted outraged Southern leaders to talk about nullification and secession, Hoopes says.

The article does mention that Carter may not have lied.......

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President Harry Truman, August 6, 1945
The lie: "The first atomic bomb was dropped on Hiroshima, a military base. That was because we wished in this first attack to avoid, in so far as possible, the killing of civilians."

President Lyndon Johnson, August 5, 1964
The lie: "As President and Commander in Chief it is my duty to the American people to report that renewed hostile actions against United States ships on the high seas in the Gulf of Tonkin have today required me to order the military forces of the United States to take action in reply."
The truth: There was no unprovoked Vietnamese attack on a U.S. warship. President Johnson ran with the untrue story to gain support for American involvement in Vietnam.

Governor Bush repeatedly promised Jewish and evangelical audiences that: “As soon as I take office I will begin the process of moving the U.S. ambassador to the city Israel has chosen as its capital,” – Jerusalem. He didn’t do that. Instead, every six months of his eight years in the White House, he utilized a waiver allowing him to postpone the Congressionally-mandated move. The U.S. embassy is today still in Tel Aviv.

Thomas Jefferson, for example, campaigned as a strict constructionist, but in office he pushed through the Louisiana Purchase – a great deal, but one that assumed the increased Federal power he had bitterly declaimed. Woodrow Wilson won the 1916 election with the slogan “he kept us out of war,” and then took the country into that very same First World War.

 

Yes, jeff, some presidents have lied at times. We know that. But sweeping statements like "All presidents lie!" is too much. But such one-liner, broad-brush commentary is typical of your colleague, dujac.

I noticed that the timing of this CNN story was conveniently consistent with the first angry aftermath of many people realizing that our current President Transparency had lied -- repeatedly -- in order to get his socialized medicine fraud called Obamacare into law. The idea, of course, was to mollify an increasingly enraged people by comparing Obama's crass, deliberate manipulation which affects 16% of the entire nation's economy with other lies that have been forgotten, long ago. Obama's lies will leave a crippling effect on this nation's economy, and its level of health care for decades to come....

 

When your wonderous President Obama announced that henceforth he would rule the country by his own unilateral presidential decrees and "orders", with his "pen and phone", he anointed himself as "Führer! The only real difference between Obama and Hitler in this regard is that at least Hitler bothered to get the permission of the German legislature to rule that way by asking it for an "Enabling Act".

Obama, the supposed "expert" on the Constitution, has crushed the separation-of-powers foundation that is vital to the entire construction of our form of government! He's done it by breaking the War Powers Act in 2011 with the illegal warfare that he unilaterally used against the government of Libya, which had committed no acts of aggression against the United States for many years. He'd done it by making unilateral, illegal "recess" appointments which deliberately and calculatingly cut Congress out of the decision-making process. Most recently he's done it with the illegal prisoner swap involving five Taliban field commanders for the American serviceman, Bergdahl.

Obama's behavior as a "Führer isn't just a one-time mistake. It is a growing list of deliberate, illegal, autocratic actions that break the law! If he had been born a White man instead of being half-Black, he'd very likely have already been brought up on impeachment charges for pulling this kind of crap. But, if he hadn't been half-Black it is doubtful that he would have ever been elected in the first place.... Now come the race cards. It's all so predictable.