Should Americans surrender to permissive firearm laws and increased mass shootings?

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  1. Noone

    Noone Well-Known Member

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    That’s the point anything implemented must work and be workable. I may lobby my State Senator and Congress Person and even volunteer for a committee. But “it” won’t be up to “me”, or any other single individual, nor should it be.
     
  2. Cybred

    Cybred Well-Known Member

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    Once again, NOT UNLIMITED.
     
  3. Turtledude

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    the duty is upon you to prove what the government can do, not on us to prove what it cannot do given the federal government is restricted by both the tenth and the second amendments and probably the ninth as well

    your posts seem to operate under the belief that the government can do whatever it wants when in reality, the government can only properly do what it was delegated to do
     
  4. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Feeling insecure unless one can mince around with a man enhancer on one's hip does not mean Americans should be forced to endure permissive laws that allow homicidal crackpots easy access to weapons of war.
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    So you're a size queen?
     
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  6. Cybred

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    (2) Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues.
     
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  7. Turtledude

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    I have never seen you ever post anything but that dicta that became even less useful to your side after McDonald v Chicago was issued. concealed weapons laws were never a federal issue btw and is not relevant to your support of unconstitutional laws.
     
  8. Turtledude

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    That comment of his proves a point you probably seen in many of my posts-the anti gun left is not really anti crime-rather that anti gun left loathes the culture that embraces individual self reliance and self defense. Comments like that prove my point.
     
  9. Turtledude

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    what exactly are the weapons of war you and other gun banners constantly talk about? Why do so many anti gun leftists think guns are the same as penises and why do so many anti gunners bring up penises or refer to that subject on gun threads?
     
  10. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    All rights are circumscribed by the rights of others.
     
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  11. Cybred

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    Nope, sorry.
     
  12. Turtledude

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    well I will merely use the same level of response. wrong. but since you seem to want to dispute my assertion-why did the other anti gun poster talk about male enhancers? wtf does that have to do with violent crime
     
  13. Conservative Democrat

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    The Second Amendment is a dangerous anachronism that should have been repealed long ago.
     
  14. Turtledude

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    except that not wetting one's self or trembling irrationally in say one's closet is not a right that is recognized concerning our rights to own arms and use them in a lawful manner
     
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    LOL, most violent felons certainly support that attitude. Governments that have monopolies on firepower have killed far more citizens than lawful gun owners ever had.
     
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    In civilized countries even conservatives ask, "Why would anyone want to own a gun?"
     
  17. Natty Bumpo

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    If you like guns a lot, that's fine.

    Why do you believe that the will of the people should be ignored, and homicidal maniacs permitted east access to mass-killing devices?
     
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    The best way to stop fascism in the United States is to put Trump in prison for the rest of his life, and to deny him the ability to communicate with the poorly educated people he pretends to live.
     
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    Guns are disgusting. People who love guns are disgusting. I want the government to punish them by confiscating their guns.
     
  20. Cybred

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    You guys seem unaware that guns are not the ONLY means of self defense.
     
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    And every one of them composed of lawful gun owners.
     
  22. Turtledude

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    and you should feel free to move there if that is what you want, but America is different and many of us like the fact that we can be armed and use firearms for all sorts of reasons-even if it causes irrational feelings of fear in some individuals and upsets mainly those who hate the attitude that we have: that attitude being that our own safety is mainly an individual duty that we don't outsource to a nanny state government
     
  23. Turtledude

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    yes, apartheid was lawful, so was slavery and so was "the final solution". I don't worship government as much as most gun banners do
     
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    I guess you've never heard of tyranny of the majority. Why do you belive that people shouldn't have access to devices to protect themselves from homicidal maniacs?
     
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    well when the secret service trades in its submachine guns and handguns and starts carrying nunchaku bear spray and brass knuckles, let me know
     

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