Should companies be allowed to disassociate themselves from other companies like Parler?

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  1. TCassa89

    TCassa89 Well-Known Member

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    So we've seen a lot of news rolling around about Parler being removed from Google Play, and the Apple Store, and now Amazon has announced that they will likely be breaking off business ties with Parler.

    The question is, should these companies be allowed to disassociate themselves from other companies in such a manner, or should there be restrictions put in place to prevent this?

    If yes, what kind of regulations or restrictions do you believe should be put in place?
     
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    Actually more at play here is collective vs individual punishment. The apt example is that not all Germans are Nazis but all Nazis are Germans. By restricting access to Parler, they're essentially taking a hammer and smashing everything. So, it's more along the lines of what the Parler CEO said, help them isolate the Nazis and they'll do so, and thus social media is accessible to everyone else.

    All collective punishment ever does is generate collective friction(ideally) or at worst collective mutiny in favor of said radicals.
     
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    fmw Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely. Every business should have the right not to do business with people or companies they choose. Lose the free market and you lose everything.
     
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    IIRC, media have the right to refuse broadcasting ads that don't meet their ethics standards. Bringing 1rst amendment in this would be ludicrous!
     
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    Chrizton Well-Known Member

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    If they want to not do business with them, it is one thing. When the decide to make a big grand announcement about it, they are really putting themselves at risk of being sued for damaging the other business's brand, especially if the banning company has anything in its platform like a message board.
     
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    Burzmali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You can't sue for damages over the manner in which someone/a business announces something. Truth is an absolute defense against defamation.
     
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    Chrizton Well-Known Member

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    LOL. In some states you can and I didn't say a word about defamation.
     
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    Burzmali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Feel free to cite an example. Causing damage to a reputation (brand, in company terms) is the literal definition of defamation.
     
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    Chrizton Well-Known Member

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    Injurious falsehoods are not the only business torts. Feel free to google it yourself.
     
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    Burzmali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you're just another lazy poster unable to back up his claims. Got it.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I don't know about the legality, but I think it's acceptable when the disassociation is motivated by the company engaging or promoting obvious illegal activities. Not when the dissociation is motivated by race, sex, religion... or any of the protected conditions.
     
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    This is classic predatory monopoly power. Frame it however you feelz that makes you feel better about it, but this is the text book definition of monopoly power.

    How about this. say it was a conservative business, and I didn't want to do business with you, like bake you a cake. Liberal folks had histrionics for years. Now explain the sudden change of heart here.
     
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    So you are wrong. Knew it.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I completely agree with this. But I think the intention of Google, Apple and Amazon is to pressure Parler into isolating the illegal content. My personal impression. Personally I don't use nor have I ever read Parler.
     
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    By banning and removing them? Really?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    This would be more like refusing to bake a cake containing arsenic.
     
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    Hmm.. I suppose when AWS said they would no longer host them, that assumption pretty much crumbled. This is monopolistic collusion. Classic case.
     
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    If the customer had requested it? or the cake batter included it?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Nazis who want to overthrow the legally elected President and put a dictator in power? Absolutely!
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    How did it "crumble"? Looks to me like it reaffirmed it.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes
     
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    Wow, that escalated quickly. I guess when you're having a hard time proving your point, you double down and exaggerate it.
     
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    Predatory collusion. Simple example. This is what monopolies do. When Google play or Apple store decided to delist the app, that was also predatory. Do either entities have any proof that Parlor was violating their TOS? When AWS suggested they would no longer host their services, it sure seems like they are taking sides. Since they already host Twitter, isn't it also super conflicted? And when do you suppose that google play, apple will stop carrying the twitter or FB apps? Do you suppose they should given the level of insurrection that those platforms buzzed about for the past 5 years?
     
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    So much for you being liberal... Is this the new you? No legal remedy for anyone against your state? Totalitarian golem for the future?
     
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    LOL. Way to go completely OT.

    Do you know what discrimination is?
     

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