Should companies be allowed to disassociate themselves from other companies like Parler?

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  1. Sanskrit

    Sanskrit Well-Known Member

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    Stormy Daniels and AVENATTI? You sure you want to use that as an example? That is more a case of choosing a lousy lawyer than any "silencing." Anything he touches is suspect, including any litigation attached to him, and for good reasons.

    Based on all the myriad leaks by disloyal Swamp creatures, if ever a Presidential Administration warranted NDAs, it's Trump's.

    But again, that's not silencing anyone, especially not in the same way big tech does. So whom did Trump "silence" for real? Not via directly negotiated NDAs?
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    nope, that was about Trump suing someone to keep them quite and to scare all the others that signed NDA's with him to remain quite - Trump was basically censoring their speech

    another example is his catch and kill thing with national enquirer

    "National Enquirer owner admits to 'catch and kill' payment to ex-Playmate"

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...er-trump-payments-david-pecker-catch-and-kill
     
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  3. Sanskrit

    Sanskrit Well-Known Member

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    Paying people directly to execute NDAs is not silencing them in the way that deplatforming is, so come up with a topical concern or make a thread on negotiated NDAs in exchange for $$. Different topic entirely.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    sure it is, you agree to an NDA or a TOS.... either way, you're agreeing to their rules - they are the same, but different, both restrict people's freedoms in some ways
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump picks the best people.... lol

    that said, a President forcing government employees to sign personal NDA's for himself and his businesses for life is wrong on so many levels
     
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    hmm... I really don't think you're an authority on how the internet does work. But ok. If a parler app post refers back to a twitter post. then what?
     
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    How many times are you going to just spew this garbage out. Cite one post. Any post that actually was identified as trying to violently overthrow blah blah... One.

    And it's now a matter of the law. Parler has filed federal antitrust against AWS. Fireworks at 11....
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Here's the difference. The local baker wasn't attempting to or enjoying the protection of the public square. You're always telling us that you've a details guy. You should understand the difference no matter how discrediting having to admit this is going to be for you.
     
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    Yes. If you have any regard for private property rights and free speech rights (the real ones), they have every right to disassociate themselves from Parler.
     
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    Unless Parler's host has a problem with Twitter, then nothing. Did you mean a Twitter post refers back to a Parler post? In that case, still nothing unless the content violate's Twitter's or their host's rules. Then it's the same as any other post that violates those rules: someone at Twitter takes it down when it's brought to their attention.

    The folks whinging about this really don't seem to understand how the internet, content moderation, TOS terms, etc work. Frankly, seeing as most of the same folks are still die hard Trump supporters, I really shouldn't be that surprised.
     
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    Wrong.
     
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    Hmm... As if AWS wouldn't block PARLER? it seems a pretty big oversight...
     
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    you do not think a NDA restricts peoples freedoms in some ways?
     
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    Traffic rules restrict people's freedoms in some ways.

    Have posted accurately and clearly on the actual topic, you ignored it, so done exchanging with you in the thread unless you have something topical or posted in good faith to add.
     
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    What do you mean? AWS already dropped Parler. Please fully explain what you're talking about. I'm tired of guessing at what you mean when the words in your post don't make sense as written.
     
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    I don't want to publicize their garbage, so
    “When will you #wakeupamerica,” a user by the name of Rapperjizzle408 posted on Friday. “Your words are no longer saving **** #civilwar is #necessary now!”
    https://fortune.com/2021/01/08/parler-violence-trump-2020-election-twitter-apple/
     
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    SO, are you seriously trying to say that "rapperjizzle" is a conservative? Really?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Absolutely not! He's a fascist! As is Trump. As are the terrorists in the Capitol.
     
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    your off-topic, I was on topic
     
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    So what are you suggesting be done exactly?

    Are you saying companies like twitter, google and amazon should be broken up into multiple smaller companies?

    Or do you believe the civil rights act should be expanded beyond services of public accommodations?
     
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    They did isolate and report the content to the authorities. Monopoly tech still did it. This is about keeping power in silicon Valley and dominating the social and political culture.
     
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    They should be fined millions for violating antitrust laws that hurt smaller competing businesses. It's coming!
     
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    I asked you what discrimination AWS committed.
    What is it? Give the discrimination.

    I showed you Amazon's statement. Parler violated the TOS. I even bolded the statement and made it larger. How'd you miss it?
     
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    For starters, I'd suggest that these companies have their federal liability protections removed. At that point, those platforms must then conform to all existing libel/slander liability, just like the other content publishers out there. And when folks realize that these platforms aren't the public arena anymore, that their data is being assumed, analyzed and otherwise used to target them, perhaps folks won't view it as a safe space anymore.

    I'd suggest that these corps be broken up again into their constituent parts of services, and be regulated so they can never become the threat to personal liberty they have become. These unelected billionaires can no longer be ignored for their abuse of the public trust.
     

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