Should employers be able to fire you for legal activity outside of work?

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Should employers be able to fire you for legal activity outside of work?

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  1. Turin

    Turin Well-Known Member

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    Should employers be able to fire you for legal activity outside of work?

    There was another thread where it showed a white woman harassing black people fishing. She used racial slurs. The video was posted to TikTok, and publicly distributed.

    Her employer saw the video and fired her for her actions.

    Should the employer be allowed to legally fire someone for legal activity outside a job?

    What if it turns out I am a NeoNazi? a KKK member? A BLM warrior.
     
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    Yulee Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    of course, black or white, you harass a black or white person for racial reasons out of work and your work finds out, they can fire you
     
  5. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sorry but where was the racial slur?

    “Are you guys residents here?” the woman asks.

    “Are we bothering anyone,” a woman accompanying the Black fisherman asks.

    Karen responds by telling them, “This lake is for residents only.” She also plays the victim, telling the man she did not permit him to film her and threatens to copy his license plate and forward it to the authorities.

    “So y’all hear what I go through, right?” The Black fisherman asks his TikTok audience with a smile on his face. “This is third person. … I’m in my own neighborhood, and a white person came and bothered me while I’m fishing.”

    He continues, “She’s like ‘oh no, I’m not giving you permission to film.’ This is my phone, I can film and do whatever I want. I study the law,” he says with a laugh.

    At this point, embarrassed, the white woman tries to brush the Black fisherman off, waving her hand in disagreement before walking away back to her vehicle.

    “What’s your name, by the way? Because at the next meeting, I’m definitely going to mention you,” the Black man says as she walks away.

    “Her name is Karen,” said the fisherman’s friend jokingly.

    The Karen video went viral on TikTok, garnishing over 3 million views since it was published.
     
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    they can fire you without cause and simply state that you are being let go. That is employment-at-will. If you have a contract, be it union or individual, then the T's and C's kick in.
     
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    I'd say it depends on what happened and what the woman said to the fisherman does not qualify. If disparaging people based on race is an event worthy of being fired then Al Sharpton and Biden would be gone.

    Serious question: If the woman who encountered the black person had been Tom Brady at the peak of his career, do you think he would have been fired?
     
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    Nope. But I guess she should have been more valuable to her company
     
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    can someone tell me what the racial slurs were? I don't see them in the transcript and I could have sworn I watched the video and didn't hear any.
     
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    Why do they assume the black couple couldn’t possibly live in the neighborhood!?
     
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    Can you first tell me what racial slur/s she used? The OP says "racial slurs" so I want to know what i'm missing.
    You can't use the excuse "its racist because a white person questioned a black person".
    inquiring about residential status is not an act of RACISM
    That being said, I still think she is racist and I think if the person was white, she probably would not have approached them, but you can't fire people based on FEELINGS and ASSumptions.
    Was there a racial slur, yes or no?
     
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    Should employers be able to fire you because the son of a friend is looking for a job?
     
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    You've never been questioned about why you at some place? How does being black even play into this?

    Why wasn't the thing in the below story fired?

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    'We got to take white people out': Rutgers University professor, 41, calls white people 'villains'
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...fessor-41-calls-white-people-villains.593683/
     
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    No, an employer should not be able to fire an employee for legal activity outside of work.

    Ugh, why I accepted this bs framework of a question by providing an answer, well, it's a mystery to me.....

    Harassment is legal?
     
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    Was she convicted of harassment?
     
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    The question isn’t if they can, it’s if they should be able to.
     
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    That company is gonna have to fire a lot more people to cover the lawsuit. If this can't be proven as racism (which so far seems to be the case) then this is a case of a person being nosy and annoying. I'm not sure that is ground for firing (especially if it did not happen in the work place).
    Congrats lefties! Your ideology just made a KAREN rich!
     
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    Don't know, do you?
     
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    She is an independent contractor.

    She can be fired for any reason or no reason at all. This kind of authority is something republicans have been pushing for decades.
     
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    They can, and she also can sue.
     
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    She can sue, but it won't get anywhere because she is an independent contractor and an at will employee.
     
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    Lets put it this way, I prefer that we find other ways to discourage this employer behavior rather than alter the law to prohibit it. But it requires some public outrage, which seems to routinely be leveled at people who express unpopular or controversial speech, rather than the employer who punishes that speech with a pink-slip. I am one of very few people on this forum who sees this as a problem.

    I remember what it was like to want to march for gay civil rights before it was fashionable, and have my employer threaten my job if I did. This can impact all sorts of political and social speech. This is not just about punishing bigots. It can punish those who march against bigotry. No one gives a ****.
     
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