Should hate speech be censored?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by CCitizen, Nov 24, 2015.

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Should hate speech be illegal.

  1. No.

    18 vote(s)
    60.0%
  2. Only speech calling for violence.

    8 vote(s)
    26.7%
  3. Yes -- hate speech against minorities and women.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Yes -- hate speech against anyone.

    4 vote(s)
    13.3%
  1. Crawdadr

    Crawdadr Well-Known Member

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    You address it through community outreach, counselling, public shaming, heck there are a multitude of ways to change behavior without using the force of the government. Picking your nose in public is legal but for the most part people dont do it. Why?
     
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    And perception is what we use to discern truth. How can truth be seen when it has to pass through the filter of subjective perception?
     
  3. CCitizen

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    I agree 100%, but more and more young people disagree.

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    Definitely advocacy of violence is illegal.

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    In Canada, UK, Europe, Supreme Courts are trying to define these terms.
     
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    Yes , they are related but not the same. Truth can vary greatly depending on perception.
    What you might perceive as hate or offensive I might intend as honest thought or feelings. Hate is an emotion. Are you going to outlaw how people feel?

    Folks need to be careful to not confuse truth with fact. They often times will also vary greatly.
     
  5. CCitizen

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    Definitely -- enforcement of hate speech laws can not be unbiased.
     
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    I hate censorship, I hate anyone who advocates censorship, is that hate speech?
     
  7. CCitizen

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    I am not sure -- I am not an expert on UK, Canada, Australia law.
     
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    What does that have to do with anything?
     
  9. CCitizen

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    Their courts decide what hate speech is and what the penalty should be.
     
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    Ok slave, then why are you even bothering to talk about it since your not allowed an opinion.
     
  11. CCitizen

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    I am sorry for misunderstanding -- I oppose these laws. I am saying that the alarming number of younger generation are returning to totalitarian ways -- going back to the time before 1776.

    But if the majority of people are against freedom, the minority must comply.
     
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    ABSOLTELY NOT, The tyranny of the majority is tyranny just the same. This is why the US was founded as a Constitutional Republic not a democracy.
     
  13. CCitizen

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    The Constitution holds only as long as the Majority supports it.
     
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    Are you an American, why do you hide your location? If so, you need an education, tell me how you figure that?
     
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    I have come to USA from Russia in 1983. Have not left USA since.
     
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    Then I suspect you have a real appreciation for the freedom you enjoy here and the effect it has. I suggest then more education on it.
     
  17. CCitizen

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    I enjoy freedom. In USSR, criticizing Communism was theoretically a crime but by 1980s few people were prosecuted for it.

    Being politically incorrect on many US campuses is much more dangerous -- but I have done that a little.
     
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    It's quite sad in a way that functionally in some respects Russians are more free then Americans.

    In the late 90s I had a girlfriend was from Russia, she'd only been in the States a few months at the time. We got pulled over by a cop, he was of course a jerk. I'll never forget her reaction to it after wards, she said "WOW, I thought Russian cops were bad". But more so her body language during and after, she was truly scared, that said a lot to me.
     
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    I agree. Prior to all this political correct speech thing there use to be an old adage, "I may disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend your right to say it."
     
  20. CCitizen

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    US legal system is much much harsher then Russian legal system. US incarceration rate is similar to Soviet incarceration rate during Stalin's rule.
     
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    What is hate speach? Whinny people claiming the n word (for which members of their own race make millions off of) is a hate crime?
     
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    I do not know. British Courts have jailed hundreds of people for offensive Social Media posts.
     
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    I don’t think it’s that simple. Politicians (and message board posters :) )use these terms (and terms like “freedom of speech” for that matter) in rhetorical and definitive ways, legislators (typically not the same politicians) try to interpret that in the formal laws and then judiciaries have to interpret those laws to apply to real world situations. The problem is that the rhetorical politics is so far from real world practicalities that when we see the outcomes of court cases, they can appear so out of sync with what we’ve been led to expect. Then the politicians make some grand speeches about how they’ll fix it and we go back in the cycle again.
     
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    Twice as many Democrats are for limiting free speech compared to Republicans.

    For those of us paying attention, this comes as no surprise.
     
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    The left will label any speech from the opposition as "hate speech". If you disagree on a budget issue, it's "hate" because you oppose a black president.
     

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