Mine is not "religious belief". It is faith in a person. That is beside the point discussed here. You say "weaponized against others" because you believe their behavior defines what they are. I think you even believe your behavior defines what you are. That is very sad. Your idea of what "religious belief" should be is anything that does not step on your toes. We must agree to disagree. My reference to "circumcision" is merely a symbolic figure of speech. It is actually a practice I am very indifferent about. It symbolizes "what is going on on the outside, does not always indicate what is going on in the inside. You have never studied the scriptures introspectively, that is apparent. Perhaps it is too deep for you at this point in your life. How 'bout we just put it on a shelf for you for now?
Human sexuality is a very integral part of the human condition. Denying that is to deny facts. While it doesn’t define them acting like it is irrelevant is a falsehood. As to weaponizing, how do you conflate individuals proclaiming religious preference trying to ban their rights and representation due to their misreading propagandized religious texts to a fault of individuals just wanting equal treatment under the law?
You show me once where I have promoted banning rights? Here you glossed over what I said about "circumcision". At one time in history, that was the law! The law is something to be broken. Jesus said we must circumcise our hearts. You have brought my faith into this discussion and I only give you a small glimpse. I know you stand at the door waiting to pounce. Give me a break, please?
Yes it is and it is and it has a very important function for both procreating and pleasure. It is like a fire in the fireplace, giving warmth and beauty to behold, but when it gets into the drapes.....we have a problem! History has shown what human nature can be come. There was a time when the greatest civilization on earth erected temples to sex, had orgies and gender did not matter. They even erected idols to be worshipped representing their actions. This yearning lies dormant in the "human condition" and you seem to want to awaken it to satisfy your own. Ask yourself, do you think it wise to head down that path again? I know there are isolated areas where many already have.
I don’t think we should erect idols to worship orgies but I 100% believe we should not discriminate or “discourage” against consenting relationships. If anything we should be supporting them and promoting legal unions as they have been shown to increase monogamy, increase community involvement, decrease mental illness, decrease poverty, and a whole host of positive benefits to the individual and society.
Ah... the word "gay" isn't mentioned. Well, the word sex isn't mentioned in it either. The thing is that gender identity is not able to be talked about. It's not just sexual education. And it "seems" rather weird you want kids to learn things, by prohibiting them a subject to even talk about.
As a parent, we send our children to school to learn about science math, etc. You know, things to help them live a productive life. You leave the "social stuff" up to their parents. None of governments damn business! You have purged religion from the schools.....this is the same thing!
You can say that all you want, and think you treat children as machines to only learn something like that, North Korean style. The countries who outperform the US on the academic list almost all if not all do not agree with you. And your idea that gender identity is like a believe as in religion only shows you do not get it.
Presumably, your parents or guardians didn't teach you about tolerance of others. Is that what you want to continue? With people just hating other people because they don't love the same way you do?
I can see something on both sides of this. Yes absolutely school should be focusing on the teaching of academics. In our country they're particularly not good at that. I suppose when they get better then we can talk about social stuff.
You can say that all you want, but parents have certain rights and teaching values to their kids is one of them. That does not belong to the State. Here's what you do "notme"... You start a Private LBGTQ school to teach your values. Your idea of confused gender identity has become a religion you embrace. Just because it is absent of a Supreme Being who created us, you get to play on a level playing field with Parochial Schools and Christian Schools. Take your ideas and go private!
It's that Christian train of thought to think that homosexuality is a negative norm / value, and do not want it to be explained as a positive. Thing is,.. it's not a norm or value. It just is, like the earth revolves around the sun. But don't let facts hit you on the way out.
*Yeah.....that is just like saying bestiality is not a norm or value.....it just is. Did you learn that from EST? "what is ,is"? The earth revolves around the sun and bears eat there young. Whatever gets you through the night. No....the Creator made us a little higher than the animals and gave us laws for our own good to live by. If you want to deny that then....live like the animals! Like I said, we have Christian Schools that teach our values. You think your values are just better, that's all. Leave value teaching to parents or start your own LBGTQ School.
Yes they always have had that right. Public Schools need to stay out of the business. They banned God from schools. LBGTQ should be banned as well. But guess what.... Reading, Writing, Science, Math, History, and all that needs to be greatly improved! We don't send our children to school to have teachers contradict what we teach them at home!
In order to avoid it, they would somehow need to know what you teach them. If you teach you boy "if you get in trouble, make sure you take the 1st punch", then the teachers would have to know to be sure not to contradict you. Of if you teach them that blacks are worthless, then teachers would have to know to avoid contradiction. The "they" who banned prayer in schools, was the Supreme Court of the US. They saw government mandated prayer as a violation of the 1st amendment, which specifically mentions religion.
I don't think there really equipped. They should certainly be allowed to protect their children from some of the uglier more adult things in society and I think that's a good thing but society has to teach you social values. If you parents teach you values that's family values which are important.
Government knows best is the beginning of an evil slide down a slippery slope. I will oppose it at every turn and so will most Americans. You will find out at mid term!
in what world is society and government the same thing? I didn't say anything about government. You didn't even respond to what I posted. You went on an anti-government rant and nothing to do with what I said.
What you meant to say was "I don't think they're really equipped. In the context of my earlier post it appeared you were saying that Parents aren't equipped to teach their children values. Your own rant just didn't make a lot of sense. So when I read that comment it seemed safe to assume you were implying this was a job for government. So you think what you call society should take the place of Parents in teaching children values? Is that like Hillary's "it takes a village" premise? So you say society is not government, is it teachers? Parents aren't equipped, then why doesn't "society" just take them away? Sounds like a "statist set of values to me.
It's rather telling you are comparing homosexuality to bestiality, which is just raping animals. I don't see any kind of comparison. This is not about Christians having their Madrasas, but Christian fundamentalists who implant their backward non scientific nonsense in public schools / American society. What's next, demand the idea to be taught the earth is 6000 years old?
