Should teachers be allowed to say "Slavery was bad and it should not happen again"?

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you're saying he is a Confederate soldier?
     
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    This **** is all labeled under the umbrella of CRT. That's where we are at now.
     
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    Of course teachers should be allowed to say so.
     
  4. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    that is my point, republicans are trying to label all black racism as "CRT", that is not what CRT is
     
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    You can call it whatever you like but it is bad.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    well of course black racism is bad, so is white racism, but let's call it what it is
     
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    Nope. If you really believe that gross distortion, then QUOTE anything in context from a CRT publication that was developed and used in colleges and prove your claim. Until you do it remains a partisan line of distortion intended to cause trouble and preserve racism.
     
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    Why are you afraid of calling a spade a spade?
     
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    Right. Let's not rip out racism by the root and eliminate it. It comes in handy in the socio-economic system of the USA.
     
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    For goodness sake! Let's not eliminate racism!!!
     
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    Yeah, and that is what our culture and systemic racism does. We need to end it by ripping it out root and branch.

    So racism is an asset for our economy? Actually I think that's true. Blacks have been used as a scapegoat, ... a "safety valve" to absorb layoffs in recessions and in other ways so that the white population doesn't feel the pinch so much and doesn't rebel.
     
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    You never said anything about any Confederate soldiers just Confederates. And that guy may not formally be a "soldier" but he did storm the Capitol as a Confederate flag carrying insurrectionist intent on committing a coup (us vs us, remember your post?).

    You also obviously and deliberately refuse to answer my question using any diversionary tactic available to you in this discussion. Your avoidance is an indication to me that you do not equate war with human rights atrocities and that you're ok with teaching about war to children prior to junior high school (which would be quite hypocritical). But please correct me if I'm wrong.
     
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    there is no Confederates anymore, the confederacy is no more
     
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    There is no systemic racism. There are far too many examples of black people succeeding. Even having held the highest office of power.

    If the United States actually had systemic racism, they are ****ing horrible at it.

    Black people have created a shitty culture that perpetuates poverty and crime. Helped in part by welfare systems that are designed to help but also reward those who have single parent households.

    There is no boogey man or system to tear down. There is no value to the country in keeping blacks down specifically. And when you ask any successful black person, they usually parrot the same **** about hard work and smart life choices.

    And the more we get away from the actual problem by blaming a systemic racism boogey man or white people...the further away from success black people will be.

    Address the problem or stay mired in the muck while creating a social and racial divide.
     
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    Seemed pretty obvious. It’s what I learned back in the 80s. Can’t recall which specific grade we learned about slavery but it was a long time ago. We learned most slave owners were white. Slavery was bad. We fought a war over it and put an end to it. Case closed.

    What we did NOT learn is that all white people are evil NOW because of what other white people did 100s of years ago. Or, that Robert sitting next to you is getting bad grades just because he’s black because for some reason he can’t understand math or reading because school is designed around how white people learn. All that **** is CRT and it makes you dumber the more you think about it.
     
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    Thanks for confirming your hypocrisy on both subjects.
     
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    how many Confederates do you know?
     
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    By repeatedly ducking my question and failing to correct me, you imply it's ok to teach children about war prior to junior high school. So again, why do you believe it's ok to teach children about war before junior high school but the same children should not be taught about slavery or the Holocaust (the "horrible stuff"), as if war is somehow not horrible? I'm trying to grasp your il(logic). That is the subject matter at hand, not how many Confederates I personally know. But if that is your logic then I can understand how you also fail to grasp that anyone who glorifies the Confederacy by carrying the Confederate flag and/or espousing Confederate mentality is not a Confederate to you. That would be like saying there's no more Nazi Germany so there are no Nazis anymore.
     
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    What is it if it isn't CRT?
     
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    it is ok to teach children a cleaned up version of wars prior to jr high

    just like a church teaches children a cleaned up version of the bible

    I thought I was clear on that
     
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    it's black racists

    just like it's not CRT when white racists do their bad stuff

    CRT is just a theory on racism, not the actual racism
     
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    What is a "cleaned up version" of wars? How does one "clean up" the bloodbaths and mass destruction?
     
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    how does one clean up the bible? we have children's Bibles, it's not that hard
     
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    That's classic! Because the correct statement, based on over a century's worth of experience, is that Democrats are the fans of slavery. Whatever gives them power is good.
     
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    that tired old game, southern conservatives then and now, and most know that

    you might ask yourself, why did they go to the Republican Party

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