Should the US/NATO demilitarize Eastern European Nations bordering Russia?

Because the bear keeps biting us and wants to recreate the ussr regardless of who he tramples.
It's true that the US missed the opportunity to improve relations with the Russians after the fall of communism and instead pursued the stupid and venal Neo-con pnac ideology, but Putin is a rogue ex-kgb thug intent on rebranding himself as tzar of the new ussr and his regime is corrupt to the core. He needs to go.

 

Well, you did, or at least you were implying that it was just liberals. Knowing your political background, and the fact that the post I responded to, you were, essentially, stating that Dems/Liberals are appeaseement specialists. You started with a domestic issue with gay/lesbian issues and now it is global economic chaos and think it is Dems fault in one way or another by being appeasers.

I say hogwash and why I used Ronald Reagan. As conservative as Ronald Reagan was, it was first a pragmatist. His START Treaty, TRA 86, his ability to reach across aisle amongst moderates, and o

Well, for starters, who do you think is giving India all that missile technology? The USA Military Industrial Complex. Second, the Syrian Civil War was a civil war. It began with the Arab Spring Revolt in Tunisia and went from there, including Syria, try 2011 here. There were protests, and detentions, and arrests, with Assad cracking down on said protests against his regime. By 2012, armed conflict began when the FSA was formed and began actively fighting against the Syrian Armed Forces. The leader was captured, had a private trial and was probably executed by Assad. From there, it dissented into Chaos with Iran and Russia joining Assad side. On the other side, was a ragtag group of militias which did include ISIL but was never part of the FSA and the Syrian National Coalition. Meanwhile, in Congress, Obama wanted to help, but the GOP, which controlled both the House and Senate, questioned and blocked those efforts because they used the "fear factor" that we will be arming ISIL.

Considering this country is secular, I guess the US is evil, right? Secularism is not the evil that we should fear, it is religious zealots who control governmental power that we should fear. And history is replete with that beginning with the Catholic Church.

 

Was Russia giving India missile technology .. India now being more advanced than the US.

"Civil War" - You are spouting propaganda .. you watched the "Syria War in 5 minutes" on youtube by the Guardian .. which is pure nonsense..

1) The moderate people in the protest movement .. had nothing to do with the civil war ... this is a lie .. a false narrative .. trotted out so often you think "It must be true" .. but its not.. State Sponsored propaganda .. which we shall see as we go on .. this part not really even mattering that much .


So this is from mid 2011 ... just prior to the insurgency starting in late 2011
https://www.christianpost.com/news/...om-anti-government-protestors-in-syria-50104/


How the Salafi radicals took over the protest movement early on .. telling Christians to join the protests or leave the country. This was the situation prior to the start of armed insurgency in late 2011.

and what a great source .. just a Christian newspaper concerned about Christians in the region ..

So you got the picture before the war .. now what happened in the first few months of the war .. Declassified DOI memo

http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-con...12-DOD-Release-2015-04-10-final-version11.pdf

So .. got it so far .. mid 2012 .. The Islamists are running the show .. and we support them.

Your claim "Obama wanted to support the Rebels" Obama was already supporting the Rebels "Covertly" supposedly but it was an open secret .. Pundits talking about the "covert" weapons program ..


The US led a global effort to arm, supply and support this radical Islamist proxy army - Saudi Arabia, Israel France, England, Qatar, Turkey, Jordan . ... they brought over all the stuff left over from the war in Yugoslavia .. arms from Benghazi .. and many other places.

"A declassified October 2012 Defense Intelligence Agency report revealed that the shipment in late August 2012 had included 500 sniper rifles, 100 RPG (rocket propelled grenade launchers) along with 300 RPG rounds and 400 howitzers. Each arms shipment encompassed as many as ten shipping containers, it reported, each of which held about 48,000 pounds of cargo. That suggests a total payload of up to 250 tons of weapons per shipment. Even if the CIA had organized only one shipment per month, the arms shipments would have totaled 2,750 tons of arms bound ultimately for Syria from October 2011 through August 2012. More likely it was a multiple of that figure". https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/how-america-armed-terrorists-in-syria/

In 2013 ..the NY-Times is reporting

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/28/w...-create-dilemma-for-us.html?pagewanted=all&_r=

but hey ... why not hear it from the horses mouth. Biden answering Questons after giving a talk at Harvard

https://mideastshuffle.com/2014/10/04/biden-turks-saudis-uae-funded-and-armed-al-nusra-and-al-qaeda/

Except Smokin Joe and the CIA were knee deep in these arms transfers .. as we know now .. but didn't then .. well not for a fact we didn't .. but we do now.

So this takes us to 2014. No moderates anywhere to be found. The new Islamic State formed in late 2013 and holds every major city in Syria but Demascus ..

And Obama's "Moderate Rebel Lie" has not yet started. .. after which the NYTimes forgets its previous reporting and changes tune..

In 2014 ISIS goes off leash and goes into Iraq .. now we have a problem .. we are supporting ISIS in Syria .. but fighting them in Iraq.

Rand Paul details the problem well on CNN's "State of the Union" 2014.

http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2...-my-son-into-that-mess-on-the-crisis-in-iraq/


So .. the FSA ? --- Was Al Nusra and ISIS comprende .. No Moderates .. was a fictitions moniker that existed in hotel lobby's .. No moderates .. NO .. understand .. say it slowly "NO Moderates" .. its a lie .

So . .. what side were you on in this battle Assad and the people of Syria .. or The Islamic State (Al Qaeda - ISIS)

 

Sure .. Yes .. but that does not justify poking the Bear .. Which NATO/US has been doing. .. for decades .. up to and including destabilization of nuclear detente ..

 

If Putin is a sociopath with nukes as you say, then putting arms on their border would be the most dumbass thing to do.

 

These (many) paid Russian trolls are putting in overtime.

 

I think the warlike nature of Putin requires a buildup of military in the Eastern NATO members. What should Biden be doing? Keeping his mouth shut.

 

So you think Biden should be keeping his mouth shut .. and building up the Eastern NATO Members.. OK .. pretty much what I propose ..just get the NATO stuff out .. can build them up without NATO being involved directly ... NATO ABM's in particular ..

And in this respect Biden should keep mouth shut .. but not with respect to negotiating Peace.

 

Particularly for negotiating anything.

 

He got a team doing the actual negotiating .. Biden just smile and wave

 

Unfortunately, he also talks.

 

The West has been far too soft against Russia already.
I would like to see an Agincourt -like defended border .

 

There's another sociopath with nukes in North Korea. Should he be allowed to scaremonger the rest of the world too? Don't offend Putin or Kim because they have nukes you know.

 

Didn't the French loose that battle in the 100 years war?

 

For starters, India is not more advanced than the USA. I take it you never done or even tried to do business there, much less look at the infrastructure beyone three metro areas.

Yes, it was a civil war. The christians you are referring to were part of Assad's government and wanted Assad to remain in power. FSA was started by a former Army colonel from Syria and was perhaps the most moderate of all the groups, and there were a lot of them, in Syria's opposition forces. They were the "largest" but only attacked Assad's military and police forces in the areas they controlled. You may want to think abou the Turkish Civil War in 1922 as a comparison.

As for ISIL and AQ affliated groups, none of them were associated with the FSA, Syrian Government in Exile, and other groups. So, your allusion that they were all one in the same shows you do not know what is happening in Syria, much less any other part of the world. But it's your 1a.

 

The Nukes that NK has is directed at two countries, ROK and Japan. He develops those programs so that he can continue to cultivate the cult like status of his people. For over 5 devades, the people of NK, generally, have been taught, since the day they were born, that all their problems are to be blamed by the US. Kim Jung Un is not a mad man, but he is very manipulative SOB.

 

1) India is more advanced in hypersonic missile technology - and super sonic missile technology. India has successfully tested its first hypersonic missile 3-4 years ago and is now starting to deploy this technology. US is still in the development stage.

2) I know this is difficult for you .. your brain realizes that our Gov't engages in some "Propaganda" lies and false narratives .. but you brain just wont accept this level of lies ... as necessary illusion bubble would pop.

So .. one more time "FSA" was a branch of the Islamic State. All its fighters either ISIS - Al Qaeda or groups affiliated with the aforementioned.

2 sides to the war mate 1) Assad 2) Islamic State

What part of "No Moderates" did you not believe ? Do you think Biden - Defense Intelligence Agency - NY-Times are lying ?

and if No moderates .. who the heck was doing the fighting for the FSA ?

You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about .. reading a wiki article that you did not understand .. as they list some of the groups fighting for the "FSA" and all are part of the Islamic State after its creation. One might have been able to find some small moderate groups in the first few months of the war .. but by late 2013 .. when a new Islamic State was officially declared There were none.

The "Islamic State" is not an illusion .. it is History -- a state that existed for 3 years.

Your claim that FSA was not associated with the Islamic State is demonstrably false -- sorry mate. You been feeding at the propaganda

In the Pic Below the FSA Commander Okaidi by the Side of the ISIS commander after the capture of Menagh air force base .. you used to be able to watch a video of Okaidi giving a rousing speech congratulating the Jihadists .. but Youtube has censored such content.



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Tons of other stuff I have - should this poison lizard you have ingested be difficult to extract . -- hope to move you from the abject denial phase into grudging acceptance.

Still waiting for you to tell me which side you were on .. "Islamic State" or Syrian Army .. desperately hoping to find some moderates that do not exist.

 

Kim Jong Un, the Dear Leader of the Korean peninsula is a mass manipulator of his mindless subjects. You can think of Putin in the same way only he's little taller than Kim and can still pull off the shirtless photo ops.