Should Trump receive the Nobel Peace Prize?

After we see the qualifications that warranted the last President to receive one with the HUGE developement with the Korea's should Trump receive the prize?

 

There have been no actual milestones passed. Other than talks. Until those talks produce fruit, I think this is premature. but I would admit, as a Trump hater, that I would have to swallow my tongue on this one, and give the man his due.

 

If anything comes to fruition, then Trump and the South Korean leaders should be considered.

 

What came to fruition when Obama got his? Trump has them talking and agreeing to sign a formal end to the war.

 

And the milestones that were passed when Obama got his were? That the NK and SK are even talking and meeting and agreeing to end the war is a HUGE milestone already.

 

Trump has accomplished much more than the NK possibility. His actions against the use of chemical warfare needs to be considered. His dismantling of ISIS has saved thousands of lives and stopped untold misery. His proposals to aid DECA would help over a million immigrants. If he was a lib he would probably already have two.

 

In the light of Obama, yes.

Otherwise.... not yet.

 

It will be as big a farce as Obama's

 

We actually have accomplishment here to point at. There was none for Obama so why would it be as big a farce as Obama's?

 

It really doesn't matter much. All things are politically and ideologically determined almost 100% now to the exclusion of anything else, so it just doesn't matter.

"South Korean President Moon Jae-in said Monday that President Trump deserves to win a Nobel Peace Prize for his role in talks to denuclearize the Korean peninsula and end the decades-long war between the North and South."

The comment by Moon Jae-in above is a bigger honor than the Nobel.

 

What did Trump do to deserve it?

 

Reinvented American policy in the region.

 

Voted no based on events so far. Should some situation in the future occur where Trump has actually made peace, then he could be eligible. For now though, he has not done that. Moon and Kim are the one's making peace. Trump is just the buffoon trying to take the credit.

 

From the horses mouth: "South Korean President Moon Jae-in said Monday that President Trump deserves to win a Nobel Peace Prize for his role in talks to denuclearize the Korean peninsula and end the decades-long war between the North and South."

 

And Moon is entitled to his opinion, just like you and me. I would just rather the peace prize not be cheapened more than it already has after giving it to Obama for doing nothing. Trump won't be the one ending the decades long war. That will be Kim and Moon. Men coming together and agreeing to peace instead of just squawking over Twitter from a distance for the benefit of his American supporters, not the Koreans or the peace process. But if you want to lower standards for Trump, go right ahead. You won't be the first.

 

How? What has American policy got to do with the S. and N. Korean leaders deciding to get along?

What is Trump's policy?

 

Well, if someone brings Trump's name up in a Nobel committee meeting I expect that everyone else in the room will immediately vote to table the motion, just on the ideology of globalism vs. nationalism.

If they did offer it, I would be very pleased if Trump refused it -- because it has so depreciated in recent times.

However, it is very peculiar that nothing remotely approaching these current events occurred on the watch of Ike, JFK, LBJ, RMN, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush41, Clinton, Bush43, or on the watch of Barack Obama.

They didn't build this.

 

I voted no. Not because he wouldn’t deserve it if NK goes well, I voted no because the prize wouldn’t be worthy of trump. Like I said in another thread, the Nobel isn’t worh the gas to go get it.

 

If you have not been paying attention I can't help you.

 

Prior to the news that NK was trying to develop nuclear weapons, I don't think anybody really cared about them outside of their region of the globe. They were a nuisance at best.

Starting with George W. Bush, things started happening. And I'd be willing to bet money that China and Russia played a larger role behind the scenes than Trump did, because Trump has no cards to play. The idea that the United States was going to put boots on the ground on the Korean peninsula is laughable. The amount of problems that would cause with China and Russia would have far outweighed any benefit that would have been seen. Add to that the fact that our military is already tied up in other regions of the globe, like Afghanistan and fighting ISIS.

So, yes, the previous presidents you listed didn't "build that". But starting with George W. Bush, they laid the foundation. They started the construction. Moon and Kim are going to finish it, assuming things go forward the way those leaders have been claiming they are going. They will be the ones who build it. Trump just wants to put his name on it.

 

"I don't think anybody really cared about them outside of their region of the globe."

Oh no, when they stole the USS Pueblo and the crew in 1968 many Americans wanted to pound NK without mercy. But crazy Lyndon just kept his thumbs stuck up his Columns of Morgagni.

 

And I'm sure any action that was being considered was tempered not just by Vietnam but by the still recent memory of what happened with China during the Korean war. Just like now, China plays a much larger role in what happens in that region than we do. Any major military action in that region would be a disruption to their economic growth and military influence. Trump didn't just step in and cause peace where no one else could before him. His posturing was for US, not the Koreans. He played a role in things getting to where they are now, but he was not the peacemaker.

At absolute best(and that's being generous), he should share a peace prize with the Korean leaders, and probably the Chinese as well.

 

Yes... however the award doesnt mean much since Obama received one for being black.

 

"he should share a peace prize with the Korean leaders, and probably the Chinese as well."

True. Personally I'd prefer there would be no Nobel forthcoming concerning events on the Korean peninsula.

I'm for the peace and the reunification with denuclearization, but I'm not for the Nobel.

 

I disagree. It will be a major step forward for those two countries, which may at some point in the future even lead to a reunification. South Koreans have been living with a level of apprehension for decades, and especially for the last 2, about what the crazy North Koreans are going to do. And this process may also go towards an improvement in conditions for those living in North Korea.