Should Tulsi Gabbard and Andrew Yang begin a whole new party?

Some people view the party divisions in a venn diagram that resembles harry Potter's glasses.

I Dont.

We overlap tremendously, we always have, but the powers that be dont want us to understand that. They do better if we are divided. If the voting blocks combined, we could actually make demands. (Gasp!)

 

~ Yang / Gabbard may be a bit too socialist for me - but I would definitely encourage them to move forward. They seem open-minded and mature enough to listen and learn from all Americans and do not appear to put the "power of the party " over the will of the people. They fit the description of political outcasts and could put a big damper on the communist "progressive" Democrat party of today .

 

Agree, and I'm sure other more moderate names might also fit, let the vetting begin!

 

I've asked this before, but never had it explained to me.

Why can't we just label all independents as being the "independent party"? Vs, "not a democrat or republican"

Easier than forming say the patriot party and expect more than 1% to roll with that and reregister. Like I said before, it would take bezos money to even begin the process especially if the media labels it quackery.

If the media and the two parties are hammering you, it's a major uphill battle.

 

~ Actually I believe Trump was his own independent party. He really exposed the laziness of todays Republican party and motivated them to actually work for the country - not the party. His conservative views on the USA policy in both foreign and domestic relations was even more "American first" than Ronald Reagan.
There is the American Independent Party here in the U.S. They have not accomplished much in way of strength and influence.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Independent_Party

 

If there is a merciful 'God', some alternative to the duopoly will materialize!

 

~ Vote for the
Constitutional Party ! ​

 

I understand your point of view but Trump was representing the GOP, despite the large numbers of vocal supporters, IMO many or most (not all) of us registered Republicans held their nose and voted for him because we believed in the message more than the messenger , we still do.

But as an individual with another life outside of politics the best I can do is offer my moral support + a few dollars towards finding a path to viable third-party. It would take a Monumental effort because you're actually trying to figure out how to get millions of Independents to align with you, good luck, they are independent for a reason. Then steal millions of D&R's, good luck again, they have proven to be loyal again and again.

When I first registered to vote back in the 80s I registered as an independent naively thinking that Florida had a Joe Lieberman type guy and we would have our own independent primary. Instead I was shut out, and reregistered next as a Republican, cuz Reagan, so I could participate in the primaries. Turns out it was a waste of time, almost none of my primary potus candidates ever seem to make it to the general election (shout out to Rand Paul!) and I haven't picked a winner since 2000 for president.

FWIW if my vote had a betting line I would have picked differently, I voted against the grain knowing it was likely a loser.

 

Gabbard's qualifications were as good or better than any of the others'. The fact that she isn't foaming at the mouth seeking the office is another recommendation; we need someone who is willing, not voracious, to accept office. If a movement needed a center around whom to coalesce, it could do worse. Too much charisma can be dangerous.

 

I wrote-in Tulsi Gabbard here in PA, and would again. While I've been a registered Democrat since 2008 and have never voted for a Republican to a national office, I am also not in favor of moving farther and farther to the left. I am willing to support moderate candidates of any party who have the character and integrity necessary to hold the office they are running for and the willingness to solve problems with solutions, not just party doctrines. Being able to work with your political opponents is a strong plus.

I also believe military service should be a prerequisite for being President and Secretary of Defense. And while I'm not sure it would work as a requirement for Congress, I wouldn't mind if the members of committees that deal with the armed forces had all served as well.

 

Even to one who is by personality anti-military, yet also aware of history and reality, it is clear that a President should definitely have a firm understanding of things martial.

 

I must agree.....
and on that note an attempt by China to knock out the USA petro-dollar was essentially predicted back in 2014 by CIA economist Jim Rickards in a video in which he gave the valuation of the USA Derivatives markets as being two hundred and ten trillion and the worldwide Derivatives markets were at seven hundred and ten trillion USA petro-dollars at that time. Rickards speculated the possibility of a one hundred trillion dollar collapse in the Derivatives markets.............. he felt that China would eventually make their move to take over....... i personally think that we are seeing that at this time.......

and here is one part of the possible response.....

The strength of the USA military in its present form depends largely on the USA economy.... two factors are needed to create a situation of hyper-inflation......
1. print a lot of extra money
2. greatly reduce productivity......

Both factors were there at the time of the Weimar Republic of Germany.... and have been replicated by the response to the COVID 19 virus...... because China has a lot of influence even over political leaders here in North America....

Can the national debt of the USA be paid off in one year?

 

Correct!

I listen to a rather different group than most of the posters here do in order to better understand my very Pentecostal wife and I have it from what I consider to be very, very, very good sources that America and Israel are about to remember the law of Moses....... especially the principle of JUBILEE!!!!!

The existing financial system worked reasonably well and prevented another 1929 until now....
but.... the idea of Jubilee was always there in the back of the minds of economists.... and now in 2020 it can be explained much more fully.....

The Australian version of this idea is important due to the capability of Australians to directly address the threat of rising ocean levels as more and more methane is released in the Arctic which had quite an effect on the Greenland Ice Sheet in 2012 and 2019 and again in 2020.....




COVID 19 and unconditional income supplement to all Australians

 

~ The way things are going it looks like the Communist Chinese Party could be the next "choice".

 

But... all they really have to accomplish is to put up a policy that President Trump can coopt when he is confirmed in January.... because BigMedia is actually on the side of BigBanking ... .and for good reason..... billions and trillions of dollars are at stake here.......!


Theoretically..... we Canadians could go back to our brilliant 1938 to 1974 central banking policy in order to finance a Basic Minimum Income of five hundred dollars per Canadian..... .to all thirty seven point six million Canadians........ for all of their lives....... borrow eighteen billion dollars per month from the Bank of Canada to finance this......... As Canadians spend their extra five hundred per month it will be taxed back into the treasury..... We can forgive the loan as it is actually given to Canadians and voila...... as the BMI money is spent and turns over about three or four times and is taxed back... .WE WOULD BE PUTTING EIGHTEEN BILLION DOLLARS PER MONTH FIRST TOWARD OUR DEFICIT... .AND SOON TOWARD THE NATIONAL DEBT.......
SOON... the Canadian economy can be operating IN THE BLACK as opposed to in the RED... because to a degree central banking policy has been influence by elitist ideas anyway...............
One part of my goal is to finance the economic freedom of Americans to NOT abort their children and... to move to rural America or Canada if they choose to do so... because and extra 2000 per month for a family of four can make moving to rural America possible.......
"There will be a sudden rush to buy farms, ranches, and homes in the country.
Thousands will attempt to flee from cities, hoping that a return to the land and
nature will provide security. There will be a growing urge to "get away from it
all"---and much money will be invested in land and acreage in rural areas by
people who have secret dreams of raising their own food and cattle and of
becoming self-supporting. The price of open rural land will continue to soar.
Acreage within 100 miles of most major cities will skyrocket out of reach to
all but syndicates." (David Wilkerson, The Vision, page 18,19).
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...tEu3SQ4QT4m5fDwx4_2qH8r_Si93s#post-1072242567

 

Only if they want to play with themselves.

 

Tell me that one again by January 21, 2021......
you will know what I mean by that time because there is also a positive and optimistic version of a "Great Reset" being planned that is very optimistic.... as opposed to the fear and pessimism version put forward by Soros and his buddies.


http://www.politicalforum.com/index...off-in-one-year.580877/page-3#post-1072242567

Can the national debt of the USA be paid off in one year?

 

That party already exists. It's called: PORNHUB

 

LMAO

 

Especially if there turns out to be some truth to the theory that Chinese investors or even the Communist Party bought Dominion Voting Sytems in October for four hundred million or so.