Simple questions for Trump supporters

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  1. Dayton3

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    In order:

    No, No. and No.
     
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    Liberals own insecurities lead them to seek validation. It's a collective mentality the y can't escape. Trump has a sense of purpose, and conviction that liberals can't begin to relate to. It's clear there are 2 kinds of voters ... Trump supporters and the resistance. Twitter is the media platform that got him elected, and any fool will tell you, stick with what works.
     
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    I think in all fairness, now that the DNC ties to Fusion GPS are being examined, Trumps meeting is fair game. Manafort, in 2008, was investigated for foreign lobbying. Here we are in 2017 doing it again. It wasn't illegal in 2008, and it isn't now. Had the issues been dealt with in 2008, this wouldn't have recurred. Campaign reforms is what we should be demanding. Not comparing who's "opposition research" was most disgraceful.
     
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    Figures.
     
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    And thus is the real problem defined.
     
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    Why ask such biased questions?
     
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    I disagree. If an American Presidential campaign is cooperating with the Russians, and the June 2016 meeting proves that exactly, that should be fully investigated, not swept under the rug as Trump and his associates wish would happen.

    Steps should also be taken to prevent Russia from interfering in our elections again. That is not being done because our President is sympathetic to Russia and thinks Putin can be his friend.

    That should also be closely examined. Why is Trump so friendly and sympathetic to Putin? He refuses to fully acknowledge that Russia interfered in our elections. He said so himself.

    All this should not be swept under the rug and forgotten.
     
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    Trump is a lying sack, and every one of his supporters knows it quite well.
     
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    Yes, they do, but they don't care. They voted for the inexperienced and arrogant Trump because they wanted a President who would create chaos in Washington.

    They got him.

    The Democratic Party messed up big time. First, by nominating Clinton. Second, by screwing up the campaign itself. Trump had better managers and they outfoxed the Democrats during the campaign, winning the popular vote but losing where it counted, the Electoral College.
     
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    The questions are fact based. If the facts are damaging to Trump, so be it. They are still facts.

    Can you answer the questions?
     
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    Biased question. Prove he is "afraid".
     
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    Not facts. Your surmises.
     
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    Speaking of Twitter, we know Trump is scared to death of the White House press corps. It is why he hasn't held a White House press conference since February, and that one was a disaster for him. He is afraid of the questions they will ask.

    Now we learn that he is afraid of the questions the ordinary American might ask. His manner of communication is one-way.

    Despite pleas from across the political spectrum that he stop his 140-character outbursts, President Trump can’t stop tweeting. Indeed, he has defended his incessant online exclamations as essential to the conduct of his office. “My use of social media is not Presidential,” he tweeted earlier this month, “it’s MODERN DAY PRESIDENTIAL.”

    Taking Trump at his word about the importance of these communiques, a group of Twitter users who have been blocked from seeing and responding directly to his tweets has filed suit in federal court in New York seeking to regain access to @realDonaldTrump, the account Trump established before he became president and still uses.


    http://www.latimes.com/opinion/editorials/la-ed-trump-twitter-20170715-story.html

    Why is Trump in hiding? What is he hiding? Why does he act guilty?
     
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    He hasn't held a White House press conference since February.
     
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    Prove he is "afraid".

    Are you psychic? Can you reach inside his mind to divine his motivations?

    All we know is what are actual facts. He hasn't held press conferences. That's all we know. Anything beyond that is speculation.
     
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    Which one of these "surmises" are untrue and explain why they are untrue?

    Why is Trump afraid to face the White House press corps?

    Why doesn't Trump conduct press conferences? Obama averaged nearly two a month. So did both Bushes and Clinton.

    Why is Trump severely limiting access to press conferences held by his press secretary?

    Why is Trump afraid to speak directly to Americans?

    Why does he communicate 140 characters at a time?

    What is Trump afraid of?
     
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    I evidently was mistaken about that.

    But you do, at least, appear to be a Never Trumper.

    Well, not yet, perhaps.

    But I have very high hopes that the Senate will soon pass (without any Democratic help) a replacement to the ACA (i.e. ObamaCare)--and that President Trump will immediately sign it into law. .

    I also hope--and expect--lower tax rates (both individual and corporate) to be signed into law.

    And--although it is not a matter of legislation--one should not forget this huge matter: He appointed Neal Gorsuch to the Supreme Court; and he is a worthy successor to the late Antonin Scalia.

    Interestingly, some people would drum these two senators out of the conservative movement. (They are certainly not so conservative as many other Republican senators. In fact, they are largely eclectic: sometimes on the conservative side, and sometimes on the liberal side.)

    Lindsay Graham Is an "arch conservative"?

    Are you entirely serious about that?

    Well, through June 20 (the latest date for which I have information), Donald Trump held more press conferences per year (pro-rated) than Barack Obama, George W. Bush (if only marginally), and Bill Clinton.

    And if we go back to the Reagan administration, he has held more than four-and-a-half time the press conferences that Ronald Reagan did: http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/newsconferences.php
     
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    Resply to your post #138 ... God. If you could only limit your rants to 140 characters! Trumps getting 24 / 7 wall to wall coverage. Why waste time on WH news conferences?
     
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    We haven't got past this first one yet. You haven't proved he is "afraid". You speculate this is the case, but that's all you're doing.

    I'll move on to the next one after you prove the first.
     
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    Trump loves to speak directly to Americans, this is the point. He prefers to speak to them directly via rallies and twitter than go through media. Question for you, during campaign, why did media always focus on 2% of his speeches that they could criticize and not focus on the 98% that could be praised?

    Trump is at war with the media and even though it may be counter productive in short term, i think this is good for the long term. The media has gotten away with taking sides and misinforming the American public for too *******n long, if you watch CNN and then watch FOX news, it seems we live in two completely different worlds. If the media were truly impartial and mostly cared about educating the public, FOX news and CNN would pretty much report the same things. The problem is that the media has turned into entertainment and a ratings battle and unfortunately scandals, sex, money sell more than boring, impartial news. This war against the media is a good thing, the media is fighting back at the accusations they are fake but they know their programs are biased, they hate being exposed.

    The media has turned into brainwashing propaganda outlets trying to get people on their side, it's pathetic. I find it hard to get the truth nowadays unless i flip from FOX and CNN to see if i can somehow arrive at the truth but it's hard. The media has also incited violence, would there have been protests and riots if the media hadn't given a voice to this racist BLM movement? Why is everything back to normal now? because the media stopped covering the lies and hatred spewed by BLM. BLM and the media were directly responsible for spreading lies about all these shootings and it resulted in cops being ambushed by racist blacks. This was a prime example of the power the media has and damage it can do. The whole BLM movement was based on a lie, virtually all shootings were found to be justified (except for 1 or 2 out of many) and the media never covered situations where whites got killed by cops (many more whites are killed by cops than blacks are). The media is responsible for a lot of bad stuff yet they try and sell themselves as the heart and soul of a democracy, please.

    thank god that someone powerful like Trump has decided to wage war on the media and it's not that he's a dictator that wants to suppress free media, he just wants them to go back to being fair and impartial.
     
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    The Fusion GPS issue is a zero. The only ones raising the issue of Steele's dossier are Trump supporters. It is a red herring they introduce then debunk as if it were a Democratic weapon against Trump.

    Detractors of Trump never mention the dossier.
     
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    Most people are afraid of rattlesnakes. They then avoid rattlesnakes because they are afraid of them. Trump stays away from the White House press corps much like people who are afraid of rattlesnakes.
     
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    Yes, he goes to highly organized campaign rallies where the only ones in attendance, or at least close to the podium, are his cheering admirers. His tweets are one-way communication and he doesn't allow questions.

    He has not held a White House press conference since February. If he is innocent of all charges for which he is being investigated, if he is confident of the job he is doing as President, why won't he stand his ground with reporters? A man who is convinced that he is in the right has nothing to fear from reporters.

    But Trump will have nothing to do with a press conference, and White House press conferences are tightly monitored, nothing live, no video, short in duration, and they end abruptly.

    That is a President who is afraid to deal with the public and those who ask questions of public interest. That is very suspicious. What is he hiding?
     
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    That's called campaigning Shanks. Perhaps you are familiar with the term.

    And "avoidance" does not imply "fear" nor does it imply "guilt" or "something to hide"
     
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    Sure. I'd agree if not for the methods, and Russian actors involved compiling it. It od course also led to the issuance of a FISA warrant. McCain suddenly faced with having to testify has apparently fretted himself into a brain aneurysm. I recognize the larger implications. Domestic surveillance, years of abuses already in evidence. Involvement of foreign actors in US campaigns. These don't become red herrings because they cause the democrats great discomfort. Chuck Grassley & Lindsey Graham were the antithesis of Trump supporters. They initiated the GPS probes.
     

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