So,minimum wage jobs are not real jobs..

According to the Lefts claims,all the jobs created in Texas are not "real" jobs.

So what are they?o.0
What is a real "job" to you Lefties?
Is this how youre going to crap on job creaters?But what if Obama opened up,ummm,lets say..Barack Burger locations nationwide ,creating over 2 million minimum wage jobs?Would you praise them because Obama created them?
Oh,but if a Republican created them,they are crap jobs,right?
Or is it because they are not "Government" jobs?
Are real jobs "shovel ready" jobs??

 

Maybe are slave jobs. Jobs in slavery conditions

People can live well with a minimium wage job? Yes/No. I don't know exactly the situation in USA, but for example in Spain is impossible to live with a minimium wage job.

 

It's pretty much impossible here too. You can get by with a roomate and a very tight budget though, while you look for something better and/or finish school.

 

A minimum wage job means you're going to have to take at least some public monies. Is that what you want?

 

Less than 2% of american jobs are minimum wage jobs. These jobs are sufficient for entry level and working teens while living at home.

 

Yup.

Only Democrats would be dishonest enough to use a mere 2% of the population and try to extrapolate that out as "the entire workforce".

The problem is that the Progressive Playbook clearly states that a person has a human right to a high paying, fulfilling job, no matter what their education level and if the private sector cannot provide it, then Government must.

 

Not necessarily. A person can live on minimum wage without taking government money.

 

I am 70-years old and there has never been a time in my life when one could live alone on a minimum wage job. Never. Minimum wage job and support a wife? Get serious. Kids? Out of the question.

That's why minimum wage jobs are considered starter jobs. How many people with really good jobs started with minimum wage jobs? I would guess most did. I not only started at minimum wage, I sometimes had two minimum wage jobs. And with every one I learned things that helped me. I had a job digging a ditch with a shovel and learned I didn't want to do that for the rest of my life. My first factory job was in a closed shop and I learned I'd never join a union. I didn't actually work at minimum wage there but since I refused to bribe the shop steward I only worked 20 hours a week which meant earning less than minimum wage.

I've know one man who worked nothing but minimum wage. He worked sporadically. He told me once, quite proudly, that he'd worked for the revolution his whole life. Nitwit.

I've also talked to people on the dole who say they'd work if they could get one of those really good jobs. I guess if you have an option of not working or having one of those really good jobs, either one beats working at minimum wage. Of course, they'll never get that "really good job".

And, yes, minimum wage does decrease the number of jobs available for entry level people.

 

It's hard to figure out exactly where all these minimum wage jobs are... since all of the large employers pay above min wage. Walmart starts people off at $10/hr... so does Target. If you have exper, you'll prob start out at $12. Most min wage jobs also receive either tips or performance bonuses.

Liberals remind me of my ex-son-in-law. First time I met him, I asked if he had a job and he said, "No, it's not really worth leaving the house unless somebody pays me over $15/hr, and I haven't been able to find that job." Like I said, he's an ex (good riddance) and finally figured out a way to draw SS disability so he doesn't have to worry about finding a good paying job. Typical liberal freeloader.

 

Minimum wage jobs are like training wheels on bicycles: at least you have people getting in there and learning, so that they can eventually graduate to a full two-wheeler.

Those that complain that minimum wage jobs are being created are ignorant of economic evolution: it is the seed of any good crop. How long do you think those who gain those jobs stay there?

Minimum wage jobs have always been stepping stones - but stepping stones have always been critical to career mobility. Get a clue, people.

 

you are very correct, Dave1mo.

By the way, here is what minimun wage jobs in the U.S. have now bought us!

Haha!



Our young Obama-inspired high school students hard at work!

 

Source please

 

They are stepping stones but the older generation in our economy refuses to move an inch. Yesterday I saw a man who looked to be in his 50s delivering pizza for Domino's. As I was driving away, I thought to my self how no one my age could possibly compete against that. Why would anyone hire someone like me who is going to eventually leave the town for better prospects or school when they could hire someone in their 40s, 50s, or 60s who will more than likely die here. It is frightening to think about what is going to happen to my generation.

And for Texas, you can't count a minimum wage job as a "Real Job" because you can't possibly support yourself without living pay check to pay check and hoping the (*)(*)(*)(*) doesn't hit the fan.

 

That's true. A company will hire someone who is likely to have a good work ethic, likely to have references that indicate he'll to a good job, and likely to not steal. How can you compete with that, Kimaris?

 

Yeah. and with federal minimum wage you make around 14,000 a year (before taxes). Including food and rent and utilities in this makes it add up fast. And then if there is a car there is car insurance and a car payment. If there is not a car public transportation still costs. And then there are clothes. And like you said, if anything big happens (car breaking down, doctor, etc.) you're completely wiped out.

 

This is my problem I have with you people. I'm a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing straight-A student, I haven't missed a single day of class or been late in the past two years even when I was sick, I volunteer teaching both kids and adults reading and math skills, I have several PHD references that put me near the top 1% of all the people they know here, I am polite and articulate, I don't steal, I don't lie and somehow I am not worth the risk? I applied everywhere in my town and somehow managed to get one interview for a sales job, almost everyone in the store was over the age of 30. So don't even think you can possibly know me Patrick.

 

That's the price you pay for not getting an education and developing a proper skill set that is going to be useful in a globalized, non-industrial economy. I don't understand why you bemoan a fact of life millions of us live with every single day without complaint?

You basically want Government to come in and save people's lives.

That's not the function of Government. The recent 11th Circuit court of appeals even explicitly stated that the Constitutional Principles of Limited Government cannot be abridged "even to solve an intractable social problem."

 

Among those paid by the hour in 2009, 980,000 were reported as earning exactly the prevailing Federal minimum wage. Nearly 2.6 million were reported as earning wages below the minimum. Together, these 3.6 million workers with wages at or below the minimum made up 4.9 percent of all hourly-paid workers.[1]

[1] "Characteristics of Minimum Wage Workers: 2009". U.S. Department of Labor. Accessed September 8, 2010.

 

Even if you're educated there are many possibilities to don't get a job. And I think that I can extrapolate problems of some countries to others, and for example in Spain you can have one career, a PhD and a master, even two careers and you won't find any job. It is not topic of studies or not. It is another topic. Corporations are too greedy, and won't hire prepared people, if not the cheapest available people to do some work, and if they do many hours, better.

 

I'm getting an education. So this won't apply to me forever. But it does apply to a lot of people. All I'm saying is people should be paid a living wage for services rendered. I'm not saying they should have enough to go buy a BMW or eat at Red Lobster every night. But if your entire paycheck is going to bills you can't save for retirement, you can't afford emergencies, nothing. And a lot of companies are not allowing people to even get overtime. My dad works at Lowes right now (as a department manager in plumbing, so not a minimum wage job) and they only allow him to get 40 hours a week, even he is willing to come in and work more. If he were on minimum wage it would be awful.

 

Yes... minimum wage jobs created in Texas under Perry are not "real jobs"

even though...


and, correct me if I'm wrong... I seem to remember a few lefties informing the class that "a job is a job" when 63,000 McJobs sweetened ObamaCo's "created or saved" stats one month...

 

Semantics. If you make less than $10 an hour you are not making a livable wage, and if you have children you are living in poverty and depending on the government to supplement your measly unrealistic wages.
　
　
Just curious where did you get that figure? Most people working jobs like that these days start at an entry level position that pays minimum wage but get a $.10 cent raise or some other pathetic adjustment within 30 days of the initial hire so technically they are no longer working for minimum wage, but that extra $3.20- $4 doesn't change their purchasing power that much. So you are simply being dishonest about low income slave labor.
　
　
A job that pays you enough to be eligible for government subsidies does nothing to help the economy, but I notice most of the companies paying those ridiculously low wages are multi billion dollar companies getting huge tax breaks, exemptions and provided tax loopholes for creating jobs that make people more dependent on the government and eligible for food stamps. There is definitely something wrong with this thinking, since those companies shouldn't be rewarded for creating jobs that are creating a burden on the government.

 

I am glad you asked, Sooner28!

Here is an earlier Congressional report that explains how raising the minimum wage actually hurts the poor. It actually hurts the poor and high school and college students who help often out with their parent's household expenses because it "takes away jobs, keeps people on welfare, and encourages high-school students to drop out of school. Policy makers should be clear on the unintended consequence of higher minimum wages.'"

"To lift people out of poverty, we need a system that maximizes opportunities for economic well-being of low-skilled workers. Raising the minimum wage is a wrong-headed solution that will deprive young, poor Americans of an opportunity to improve their economic situation."

The report is from 1996, but it conclusions then are just as accurate and to the point today during these latest economic hard times. Conclusion: You don't make labor more expensive and expect small business owners to hire more people!

"To put this gain in perspective, each minimum wage worker who earns $4.25 an hour brings home $3.92 for each hour worked once payroll taxes are deducted. The employer costs of a minimum wage worker is $4.58 an hour when the employers share of the payroll tax is included."

http://www.house.gov/jec/cost-gov/regs/minimum/against/against.htm

 

Not sure why there's so much controversy over min wage jobs. The only jobs Obama's mentioned creating in the last 2-1/2 yrs are construction jobs which are rarely long-term. I'd rather have a steady min wage job than a temp high paying job. At least if you do a good job @ min wage, you're usually given the opportunity to move to a better paying position.

One question for you, BN... how would you suggest we 'fix' this problem? Have our govt take over wage decisions for private businesses?

As usual, liberal solutions are much worse than the problem they're designed to fix.

 

You are very correct, Smartmouthwoman!

Especially when you say, "I'd rather have a steady min wage job than a temp high paying job. At least if you do a good job at minimun wage, you're usually given the opportunity to move on to a better paying position."

Here is where we today are when it comes to educating our high school students for first working at entry-level minimum wage jobs.

Note the use of the teleprompter! ... Haha!



Our young Obama-inspired high school students hard at work!