So, what does happen if RvW goes down?

You appear to know English, so I will ask again:

What have "leftist" done to you specifically that has prevented you from fulfilling whatever that term (family) means for you?

 

Except we have never had legislation like the TX abortion ban before. In fact, there is no precedent for any law that allows civilians to enforce it, so it seems to me you're just banking on wishful thinking that the potential of a $10,000 payout won't cause any damage to the judicial system, or people's lives.

 

Early days yet. That is one badly worded piece of legislature

 

There is a profit motive. How could it not happen, what stopping it?

Bussing woman to another state for abortions is assisting in abortion services.

 

I will make you a deal. When a bus driver is ever brought to court for such, both you and I will join forces to condemn the action.

You and I both know that is never going to happen.

 

I will make you a deal. When a bus driver is ever brought to court for such, you, Lucifer, and I will join forces to strongly condemn the action.

We all know however, this is never going to happen.

 

From a brainwashing perspective, they have done a number on you folks.

I will make you a deal. When a bus driver is ever brought to court for such, you, Lucifer, Bowerbird, and I will join forces to strongly condemn the action.

We all know this is never going to happen.

 

What a silly question as though I'm not supposed to be concerned at all with what they've done to others.

 

As a Conservative that believes in legal abortion, I still see Roe v Wade as nonsensical law. To conclude that the right to privacy refers to nationalized legal abortion is downright preposterous.

If Roe V Wade were overturned, it would mean that each state would make the abortion decision for themselves. Nobody honestly believes that it would be illegal in more than just a handful of states.

The net result for women in one of those states that needed an abortion would be that they would be a short bus ride away from getting what they desire. The government subsidies that go to Planned Parenthood in those states would easily fund this bus ride for poor women.

To pretend like this would be the end days is bombastic to say the least. The net effect would be minimal, other than those states with a preponderance of residents that do not want legal abortions, would no longer be forced for it to occur in their states. To pretend like this would lead to back-alley abortions is more than silly.

 

There would be a whole lot more liberals if abortions were banned
This is the primary form of birth control for the left and I say we let them keep it!

 

While it's a big question- it's still only a fragment of the political issue. The list of outrageous things with no rational foundation is vastly larger- and affects everyone.
I'm a conservative, I've always been pro-choice. Why- because nobody gets to decide what other peoples personal choices must be when they don't have skin in the game.
To me, that must be a fundamental rule of any just society- individual freedom, sovereignty over yourself. But, I'm also not religious in the usual sense, and that is where a lot of anti-abortion sentiment comes from- not arbitrary choice, but values based in faith. So while I agree with you, I understand where the objections come from. I don't consider them valid.

So all on the right are not in agreement here, or on many other issues. Just at the promotion of Trump hate got people to vote for anyone else, emotional decisions often bring negative results.
People on my side ask who in their right mind could attack the fundamental identities and beliefs of children- and how those who do it think it would attract support- and what kind of people would those supporters be.

Best choice might be- to mind our own business, which is usually none of government's business.

 

You have no clue what others' perspectives on family is, that is why I asked you to provide a personal example, but of course, that is asking too much. You're far too transparent with what your motivations are to be taken seriously.

 

Brainwashing?, wtf the law is written right there for you to read.

Where does it exclude such actions?

 

The brainwashing comes in when you are absolutely convinced that a bus driver is going to be held liable. It is not going to happen, yet you are convinced that it is only a matter of time. IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN, and if someone were to try, the acting with intent clause would nullify such nonsense. Of course the people making that claim (specifically aimed at working people like yourself up into a frenzy), conveniently left that part out.

Step away from the brainwashing and THINK for just a moment. A bus driver is never going to be convicted in this law, although i would not doubt that some leftist prosecutor somewhere will not try in a silly attempt to make a political point.

 

They take tax money from my family to propagate generational welfare groups that embrace the single parent family units and reward them per child, all for a vote.. Families across this nation could use that money to better their own children and living condition without question, the left clearly and has for several decades rewarded this sort of culture..

I'll leave it up to you to figure out the demographics!

 

I’m for the banns and I really don’t care if it doesn’t pay off politically. Democrats are attacking other rights so bad that I doubt it will have a very large effect.

 

Yes… because you can totally survive on one sandwich every 3 weeks. The person who needs a better understanding is you, not him.

 

Really

 

To maintain health you need to eat a certain amount of calories a day. This is a fact.

 

Ever wonder why "A JOB" is very seldom mentioned in these debates

 

First of all, it's not just about a bus driver. It's about the language, second it's the nature and intent of the bill that brings pause.

It's the wrong path to try and force a situation that should not be forced.

A bill is not going to force a mother to love an unwanted child. An unloved child brings about dangerous situations.

Your "bussing solution" just reveals the futility of such measures. Not only that the language of the bill prevents that solution as well.

 

What a load of crap...like every other leftist I've ever met quick to judge and way to short on understanding.

 

The intent is to discourage providers from performing abortions outside of the specified time. Being pro-abortion myself, such a provision is not what I would support, but Texas has a right for its duly elected legislature to enact their own laws. The intent is NOT to capture bus drivers in their net. That is a claim from some no-name state level congressman that was trying to slow down its passage at the last minute by adding an unnecessary amendment ( this was following the silly procedural stunt where all the Democrats left the state holding its passage up for months) and then subsequently working people up into a frenzy by falsely mischaracterizing that it could capture a bus driver which of course is not true if for no other reason than it requires specific intent which a bus driver most certainly would not possess.

There are plenty of reasons for you as a leftist to oppose this bill. A bus driver being held liable is not among them. You have been brainwashed into falsely believing that it ensnares bus drivers. Chasing such trivial nonsense does your position no favors.

 

Fair enough. Looking beyond just transportation services, it is a sane concern that the profit motive will ensnare more than just the doctor providing the services though.

 

I wish I had your faith. I am ( in my mind anyways ) 100% sure RvW is toast.


As for what will happen.

Dr's will go to jail. Women will go to jail.

And the same pro lifers who complain about abortion will then start blaming single mothers on welfare for gaming the system to have more kids.